Guest Carole5 Posted February 20, 2013 at 09:40 PM Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 at 09:40 PM A member proposed an amendment to a motion. The amendment failed, the motion passed. Is it necessary to document the amendment in the minutes?Carole O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. J. Posted February 20, 2013 at 09:45 PM Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 at 09:45 PM No. In fact, if the amendment was adopted, the minutes would only show the motion as amended (see p. 472, ll. 21-28, for an example).J. J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edgar Posted February 20, 2013 at 09:54 PM Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 at 09:54 PM No. In fact, if the amendment was adopted, the minutes would only show the motion as amended (see p. 472, ll. 21-28, for an example).Although the sample minutes also record (p.473, ll.3-5) a motion that was adopted "after amendment and further debate".Since the maker of a motion is recorded, it seems reasonable to record that, if amended, it wasn't adopted in its original form. No such consideration is necessary if the original motion was not amended prior to adoption.8Xn354 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. J. Posted February 20, 2013 at 10:51 PM Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 at 10:51 PM Although the sample minutes also record (p.473, ll.3-5) a motion that was adopted "after amendment and further debate".Since the maker of a motion is recorded, it seems reasonable to record that, if amended, it wasn't adopted in its original form. No such consideration is necessary if the original motion was not amended prior to adoption.8Xn354Nothing regarding the text of an amendment is required, even if the amendment is adopted. If adpted the motion, as amended, is recorded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edgar Posted February 20, 2013 at 11:18 PM Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 at 11:18 PM If adpted the motion, as amended, is recorded.Yes, but there's a difference between recording the motion as amended (i.e. in its final version) and noting that it had, in fact, been amended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted February 21, 2013 at 12:25 AM Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 at 12:25 AM Yes, but there's a difference between recording the motion as amended (i.e. in its final version) and noting that it had, in fact, been amended.The minutes should record the final version of the motion as adopted, noting (something like) "after amendment and further debate". (RONR 11, p. 473 ll. 3-6) Thus, it should be obvious to anyone reading them that the final, adopted version was not the same as the original motion, although the content of the amendment is not recorded for posterity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edgar Posted February 21, 2013 at 12:45 AM Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 at 12:45 AM The minutes should record the final version of the motion as adopted, noting (something like) "after amendment and further debate". (RONR 11, p. 473 ll. 3-6) Thus, it should be obvious to anyone reading them that the final, adopted version was not the same as the original motion, although the content of the amendment is not recorded for posterity.Which is what I said:Although the sample minutes also record (p.473, ll.3-5) a motion that was adopted "after amendment and further debate".My point being that J.J.'s initial statement that the motion be recorded as amended did not clearly indicate that the fact that it had been amended should also be noted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted February 21, 2013 at 02:15 AM Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 at 02:15 AM The motion should be recorded as amended, and it should be recorded that the motion was recorded as amended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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