Guest Penny Posted April 3, 2014 at 08:18 PM Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 at 08:18 PM If we have an election and someone is elected, then found not to be eligible, do we accept the next in line on the ballot or do we need another election? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted April 3, 2014 at 08:23 PM Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 at 08:23 PM "If an individual does not meet the qualifications for the post established in the bylaws, his or her election is tantamount to adoption of a main motion that conflicts with the bylaws." RONR (11th ed.), p. 445 A point of order can be made anytime and another election is held for that particular position. The runner-up on the ballot is never declared elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted April 4, 2014 at 06:09 PM Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 at 06:09 PM If we have an election and someone is elected, then found not to be eligible, do we accept the next in line on the ballot or do we need another election?The runner-up on the ballot could not possibly have received a majority of the vote, and therefore is not elected to the office. You'll need to conduct another election, which might very well elect the previous runner-up, or might very well not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted April 4, 2014 at 06:56 PM Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 at 06:56 PM ....or might very well not. Right. After all, he/she lost the election, perhaps for very good reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim Posted April 8, 2014 at 03:51 AM Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 at 03:51 AM Where bylaws provide that a candidate can be elected with a plurality of votes, there may be no requirement for the runner-up to have obtained a majority of the votes and this would not suffice to resolve the question. Unless RONR makes provision for even such a case, on the basis that the outcome could have been different had those votes cast for the ineligible person been cast absent their name on the ballot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted April 8, 2014 at 10:37 AM Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 at 10:37 AM I fear I lost you in that second sentence, but I agree (I think) that a runner-up would NOT be an automatic winner (if the "first" winner was ineligible or something) even in a plurality election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted April 8, 2014 at 02:34 PM Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 at 02:34 PM Where bylaws provide that a candidate can be elected with a plurality of votes, there may be no requirement for the runner-up to have obtained a majority of the votes and this would not suffice to resolve the question. Unless RONR makes provision for even such a case, on the basis that the outcome could have been different had those votes cast for the ineligible person been cast absent their name on the ballot?In no event does a person who lost an election ever retroactively win it because the winner was deemed ineligible. We cannot know what would have happened if things had been different (apart from the strong suspicion that they would not have been the same). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted April 8, 2014 at 04:55 PM Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 at 04:55 PM Where bylaws provide that a candidate can be elected with a plurality of votes, there may be no requirement for the runner-up to have obtained a majority of the votes and this would not suffice to resolve the question. Unless RONR makes provision for even such a case, on the basis that the outcome could have been different had those votes cast for the ineligible person been cast absent their name on the ballot? Jim, I think you may want to start a new topic for this question. A similar question led to a heated discussion a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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