Guest awtozer Posted April 18, 2014 at 12:52 AM Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 at 12:52 AM Can a body pass a motion that specifically targets only one member, requiring that member to perform a task or duty that is not required by the organization's by-laws, or part of an officer's duties as defined by the organization's by-laws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted April 18, 2014 at 04:27 AM Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 at 04:27 AM What is the "task or duty"? Is there a penalty for not doing it? How enforced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edgar Posted April 18, 2014 at 12:15 PM Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 at 12:15 PM "I move that John Doe [be required to] purchase a keg of beer for Friday's happy hour with funds provided by the society." Seems okay to me. Though Mr. Doe is free to refuse and the society is free to pursue disciplinary sanctions. It would probably be better to find someone who actually wants to do it, rather than trying to "require" someone to do it. With Mr. Stackpole, I look forward to the details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted April 18, 2014 at 01:06 PM Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 at 01:06 PM "I move that John Doe [be required to] purchase a keg of beer for Friday's happy hour with funds provided by the society." Seems okay to me. Though Mr. Doe is free to refuse and the society is free to pursue disciplinary sanctions. It would probably be better to find someone who actually wants to do it, rather than trying to "require" someone to do it. With Mr. Stackpole, I look forward to the details.Who on Earth would NOT want to undertake such a task? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transpower Posted April 18, 2014 at 01:18 PM Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 at 01:18 PM As per RONR (11th ed.), p. 43, ll. 15-22, officers should be referred to only by title. Therefore, assuming this motion is for the VP, the correct motion would be "I move that the Vice President purchase a keg of beer...". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Harrison Posted April 18, 2014 at 01:26 PM Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 at 01:26 PM Who on Earth would NOT want to undertake such a task?Not all beer is created equal. If they told me to get Bud Light I would call them wusses but if they wanted me to get some Millennium Ale (that stuff will knock you on your can after one or two glasses) I would be all for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary c Tesser Posted April 18, 2014 at 02:29 PM Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 at 02:29 PM Not all beer is created equal. If they told me to get Bud Light I would call them wusses but if they wanted me to get some Millennium Ale (that stuff will knock you on your can after one or two glasses) I would be all for it! Chris, you are my mommy and I want to have your baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Ed Posted April 18, 2014 at 02:48 PM Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 at 02:48 PM To be a bit serious here, if the original poster could provide us with a bit more detail, it may help us to give a more accurate response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Harrison Posted April 18, 2014 at 03:00 PM Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 at 03:00 PM Chris, you are my mommy and I want to have your baby.I'm not quite sure but I think I should be creeped out by that. <shudder> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted April 19, 2014 at 03:03 PM Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 at 03:03 PM I would suggest delegating the task of scoring the brew to a Select Committee on Provisions and Beverages, and appointing Mr. Doe as chairman and lone member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted April 19, 2014 at 06:00 PM Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 at 06:00 PM Can a body pass a motion that specifically targets only one member, requiring that member to perform a task or duty that is not required by the organization's by-laws, or part of an officer's duties as defined by the organization's by-laws? Generally speaking, I would think such a motion would be in order, although as others have noted, some additional details may be helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted April 19, 2014 at 08:05 PM Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 at 08:05 PM But... if there is a penalty attached to not doing the task, this is akin to a bill of attainder and probably is not proper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Ed Posted April 19, 2014 at 11:10 PM Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 at 11:10 PM Generally speaking, I would think such a motion would be in order, although as others have noted, some additional details may be helpful. It sure would be helpful Josh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted April 21, 2014 at 04:08 PM Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 at 04:08 PM But... if there is a penalty attached to not doing the task, this is akin to a bill of attainder and probably is not proper. I would agree that it is certainly not in order to attach a disciplinary penalty to such a motion as an automatic consequence of the member failing to complete the task. If the society wishes to discipline the member for failing to complete the task, it would need to follow the disciplinary procedures in its rules or the rules in Ch. XX of RONR in order to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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