Guest rick Posted April 26, 2014 at 01:34 AM Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 at 01:34 AM Can the president make a motion to amend the bylaws and haveit come to a vote by membership? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Ed Posted April 26, 2014 at 02:42 AM Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 at 02:42 AM How so? Did the President make the motion at a Board meeting (i.e. did the President make a motion that a specific issue be brought up at a general membership meeting) or was the motion made at the meeting of the general membership? If the motion was made at a Board meeting, there is nothing wrong, especially if the Board comprises of no more than 12-13 members and are operating under the relaxed rules of RONR. If the motion was made at a general membership meeting, then the President should not have made the motion, unless the President relinquished the chair to the Vice President. However, if the President is a member of the organization, then the President retains the right to make a motion. In other words, it is not technically wrong, but at the end of the day it should not happen while the President is presiding over the meeting in order to keep the appearance of being neutral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nancy N. Posted April 26, 2014 at 08:15 AM Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 at 08:15 AM If the motion was made at a Board meeting, there is nothing wrong, especially if the Board comprises of no more than 12-13 members and are operating under the relaxed rules of RONR... RONR says this, on p. 487: "In a board meeting where there are not more than about a dozen members present, some of the formality that is necessary in a large assembly would hinder buisness...." IT seems to me that The Edness One has added something of his own spin. Other than that I can in general cautiously commend his reply. [Trial 1: is that a car or a flower?] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Ed Posted April 26, 2014 at 06:10 PM Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 at 06:10 PM RONR says this, on p. 487: "In a board meeting where there are not more than about a dozen members present, some of the formality that is necessary in a large assembly would hinder buisness...." IT seems to me that The Edness One has added something of his own spin. Other than that I can in general cautiously commend his reply. Nancy, my point is that in a 'small' Board, the President/Chairman can enter into debate, make motions, etc. Read the rest of the information in RONR on this. Like I said, I can provide an exact response if some more information would be helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nancy N. Posted April 27, 2014 at 01:20 AM Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 at 01:20 AM I don't remember what I thought was off about R. Ed's post #2, but right now I don't see anything wrong with it. Sorry, R. E. (Good day for buying stock in ailerons) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edgar Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:35 AM Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 at 10:35 AM I don't remember what I thought was off about R. Ed's post #2, but right now I don't see anything wrong with it. My only quibble would have been altering RONR's "not more than about a dozen" to "no more than 12-13". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted April 27, 2014 at 12:43 PM Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 at 12:43 PM I don't remember what I thought was off about R. Ed's post #2, but right now I don't see anything wrong with it. I'd also add that amendment of the bylaws generally is more involved than simply making a motion to do so. It might be that easy, depending on what the bylaws say, or don't say, about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted April 27, 2014 at 08:28 PM Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 at 08:28 PM My only quibble would have been altering RONR's "not more than about a dozen" to "no more than 12-13". Or that RONR bases this off the number of board members regularly present, not the total number of members on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Catherine Posted May 15, 2014 at 02:42 PM Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 at 02:42 PM What article in the RONR states in a board of less than 12 the president may enter into the debate and make motions. Can the president/chairperson take part and offer his/her opinion in a discussion before and after a motion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Guest Posted May 15, 2014 at 03:12 PM Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 at 03:12 PM Procedures in small boards are discussed on pp.487-488 (11th ed.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted May 15, 2014 at 03:56 PM Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 at 03:56 PM What article in the RONR states in a board of less than 12 the president may enter into the debate and make motions. Can the president/chairperson take part and offer his/her opinion in a discussion before and after a motion?If your copy of RONR has numbered articles, your version is quite old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted May 15, 2014 at 04:43 PM Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 at 04:43 PM Can the president/chairperson take part and offer his/her opinion in a discussion before and after a motion? In a committee or small board, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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