confused about p 308

[rockbust]

I am a bit confused about p 308. c "when a resignation has been acted upon, or a person has been elected to or expelled from membership or office and the person was present...."  "for the case of election see pp 653-54..."

 

1) as it relates to the election of members into the membership. Does the above mean once a member is voted into membership and was present, an untimely point of order can not be raised as specified on page 251.

 

2) as it relates to election of officers. Are the rules different? p 445 says that elections can be contested by raising a point of order and mention the exceptions to the timeliness rules.

 

 

Thanks Robert

 

 

[Guest Edgar]

2. Successfully contesting an election (per p.445) does not result in the rescinding of the election (which is what's discussed on p.308). It results in the election being declared null and void.

[Chris Harrison]

When you compare rescinding something and raising a Point of Order you are comparing apples and oranges.  When you are rescinding something you are in effect saying "We changed our mind and want to undo what we did."  On the other hand, when a Point of Order is raised you are saying "A rule has been broken (hopefully citing which one has been broken) and we need to rectify the situation." 

[Josh Martin]

I am a bit confused about p 308. c "when a resignation has been acted upon, or a person has been elected to or expelled from membership or office and the person was present...."  "for the case of election see pp 653-54..."

 

1) as it relates to the election of members into the membership. Does the above mean once a member is voted into membership and was present, an untimely point of order can not be raised as specified on page 251.

 

2) as it relates to election of officers. Are the rules different? p 445 says that elections can be contested by raising a point of order and mention the exceptions to the timeliness rules.

 

If a Point of Order is raised regarding a continuing breach, this is not rescinding the election. Rather, it is stating that, because of a severe violation of the rules, the election was invalid in the first place. So raising a Point of Order regarding a continuing breach about an election to membership or office does not conflict with the rule on pg. 308.

 

Additionally, what is said on pg. 251 does not mean that an untimely Point of Order can be raised. It means that, in certain cases, the Point of Order is timely for a much longer period of time.

[rockbust]

Thank you I got it. yes two different things. With that understand I will post a situation that arose in another topic.