Guest Pam Braaun Posted April 28, 2014 at 05:26 PM Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 at 05:26 PM There are ten members present, all able to vote. A motion made, vote is called. Four vote yes, no votes for NO, none Abstained. Six just chose not to vote.The vote passes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted April 28, 2014 at 05:34 PM Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 at 05:34 PM Abstaining IS choosing not to vote. Nonetheless, in general they don't count for anything anyway. So, you had a vote of 4 to 0, adopting the motion. (the vote passes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted April 28, 2014 at 07:08 PM Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 at 07:08 PM There are ten members present, all able to vote. A motion made, vote is called. Four vote yes, no votes for NO, none Abstained. Six just chose not to vote.The vote passes? Yes, the motion passes. But you said none abstained, when in fact six abstained. Abstaining means choosing not to vote. What was it that made you believe that none abstained? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pam Braun Posted April 28, 2014 at 10:45 PM Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 at 10:45 PM We offer an approve, disapprove, abstain option, in voting, so I just was trying to be precise. Pam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g40 Posted April 29, 2014 at 01:14 AM Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 at 01:14 AM It seems to me that since your organization "offers" voting options/choices that are not consistent with RONR, then your organization should provide or adopt something that provides the answer to your question. You may be "precise", but you are still not following RONR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted April 29, 2014 at 09:52 AM Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 at 09:52 AM We offer an approve, disapprove, abstain option, in voting, so I just was trying to be precise. Pam If you are doing this when taking a voice vote, a rising vote, or a vote by show of hands, you are simply wasting time. "The chair should not call for abstentions in taking a vote, since the number of members who respond to such a call is meaningless. To 'abstain' means not to vote at all, and a member who makes no response if 'abstentions' are called for abstains just as much as one who responds to that effect ...." (RONR, 11th ed., p. 45, ll. 14-18.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pam Braun Posted April 29, 2014 at 03:24 PM Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 at 03:24 PM We do electronic voting. Those who are absent or do not participate for a number of polls, could be removed. So we offer the abstain to show they were present, but chose no vote, and not just an absent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted April 29, 2014 at 06:21 PM Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 at 06:21 PM We do electronic voting. Those who are absent or do not participate for a number of polls, could be removed. So we offer the abstain to show they were present, but chose no vote, and not just an absent. Electronic voting is not permitted unless it is authorized in your bylaws. If it is authorized, however, and members are required to be "present" for the electronic voting, then I suppose offering an option for members to abstain does make sense. You should also check to see whether your organization's rules say anything about your original question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted April 30, 2014 at 11:48 AM Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 at 11:48 AM We do electronic voting. Those who are absent or do not participate for a number of polls, could be removed. So we offer the abstain to show they were present, but chose no vote, and not just an absent. All this is, in the long and short of it, irrelevant. The vote was 4-0, the motion passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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