Guest VotingQ Posted May 17, 2014 at 08:59 PM Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 at 08:59 PM A vote was taken and the chair asked all in favor but did not ask if there was any opposed. It simply ended after asking all in favor. At the following meeting the individual that was opposed expressed this be recorded correctly in the minutes but the minutes were not changed because it was felt that by not speaking up the individual abstained. We all agree the individual should have spoken up but that doesn't change the questions at hand. In reading the rules I am of the understanding that 1) abstentions are not recorded and 2) for a vote to be valid you must ask the question any opposed? We are a fairly new group and want to do things correctly so would appreciate any clarification you can offer. Thank you, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted May 17, 2014 at 09:18 PM Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 at 09:18 PM 1. Correct. And you don't even bother to ask for them or (shudder) count them. 2. Failure to ask for the "No" votes does not invalidate the outcome -- next time, if you are concerned, raise a point of order. It is too late now to do so for that previous vote. For a new group, get copies of RONRIB for the leaders (and followers, too):"Roberts Rules of Order Newly Revised In Brief", Updated Second Edition (Da Capo Press, Perseus Books Group, 2011). It is a splendid summary of all the rules you will really need in all but the most exceptional situations. And only $7.50! You can read it in an evening. Get both RONRIB and RONR (scroll down) at this link. Or in your local bookstore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Posted May 17, 2014 at 09:30 PM Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 at 09:30 PM If someone didn't like what was done, the point of order should have been raised at the time. While it is proper to ask for those opposed, it is often possible to determine the will of the majority without doing so, as is the case if those voting in favor of the motion outnumber those who have not voted yet. In the case of unanimous consent, the chair doesn't even bother asking for those in favor because he has reason to believe that most people are in favor. As long as no one objects, he declares that the motion has passed (or failed, as the case may be) and there is no need for a vote. Waiting until the next meeting and asking for the minutes to state something that didn't happen is not a correct method of stating ones objection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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