Guest Mike Posted July 25, 2014 at 08:09 AM Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 at 08:09 AM Our fraternity's annual meeting is coming up. There will be many members in attendance but per our bylaws only our chapter delegates and national officers may vote. Committee chairs can not vote unless also a delegate or officer.I am the bylaws committee chair. In the past our bylaws chair has also been a delegate but this is the first year I am aware of where the bylaws chair will not be a delegate. Therefore I have no vote.Tonight I received a script from our parliamentarian that directs me to make motions to introduce the bylaws we will be voting on. Can I make motions to bring business before the group as a non-voter or must these motions be made by a voter? I couldn't find anything in RONR either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transpower Posted July 25, 2014 at 10:11 AM Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 at 10:11 AM If your bylaws committee has approved the amendments, then yes you may make the motions--and no second is needed, because you already have the committee support. It is quite odd, however, that you would not have a vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted July 25, 2014 at 10:34 AM Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 at 10:34 AM Our fraternity's annual meeting is coming up. There will be many members in attendance but per our bylaws only our chapter delegates and national officers may vote. Committee chairs can not vote unless also a delegate or officer.I am the bylaws committee chair. In the past our bylaws chair has also been a delegate but this is the first year I am aware of where the bylaws chair will not be a delegate. Therefore I have no vote.Tonight I received a script from our parliamentarian that directs me to make motions to introduce the bylaws we will be voting on. Can I make motions to bring business before the group as a non-voter or must these motions be made by a voter? I couldn't find anything in RONR either way. As far as the rules in RONR are concerned, only members of an assembly (as defined on p. 3) may make motions, and it appears that you will not be a member of this assembly since you will not be entitled to vote. Perhaps there is something in your rules about this, however, which leads your parliamentarian to believe that it will be in order for you to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted July 25, 2014 at 02:37 PM Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 at 02:37 PM Nope. Nothing is in our rules about motions and seconds, only voting (and it would be my job to know if it were otherwise). I agree with your answer, I just thought it was really odd of a PRP to make such a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted July 25, 2014 at 03:01 PM Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 at 03:01 PM In the past our bylaws chair has also been a delegate but this is the first year I am aware of where the bylaws chair will not be a delegate. Therefore I have no vote. I just thought it was really odd of a PRP to make such a mistake. Since you're breaking new ground by not being a delegate, does the parliamentarian know this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted July 25, 2014 at 03:30 PM Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 at 03:30 PM It was made known to her, but I'm sure we're not her only client so she might have forgotten.The bylaws chair is appointed a year in advance. It is not known at that point who the chapter delegates will be. In my case, however, I am an alumni-at-large or an alumni who does not belong to a specific chapter (There are none in my area.) so it was a given I would not be a delegate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted July 25, 2014 at 03:52 PM Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 at 03:52 PM It was made known to her, but I'm sure we're not her only client so she might have forgotten.The bylaws chair is appointed a year in advance. It is not known at that point who the chapter delegates will be. In my case, however, I am an alumni-at-large or an alumni who does not belong to a specific chapter (There are none in my area.) so it was a given I would not be a delegate. Well tell her and see what she says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted July 25, 2014 at 03:59 PM Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 at 03:59 PM Well shoot. Since Daniel Honeymann helped write the book he's probably right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted July 25, 2014 at 06:42 PM Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 at 06:42 PM Well shoot. Since Daniel Honeymann helped write the book he's probably right. Aside from spelling his name wrong, there's no question that he's "right" on all things RONR.....I was exploring his last sentence, which indicated there may be some reason for the oversight, or there may some rule outside of RONR that comes into play....I suspect, like you, it's something simple and that's why I suggested you ask her directly. I'm sure she'll appreciate you inquiry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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