Guest Erichie Posted August 18, 2014 at 02:33 AM Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 at 02:33 AM Our constitution states that all members must be sent written notice for certain items. We would like to make a motion to define written notice to include email as opposed to just postal service. Would this motion need to be a constitutional amendment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Harrison Posted August 18, 2014 at 02:45 AM Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 at 02:45 AM Though in my opinion "written" also includes e-mail it would be a good idea to amend the Constitution to specify it in order to lessen the chances of arguments later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted August 18, 2014 at 03:11 AM Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 at 03:11 AM I was really hoping we could just make the motion to accept email as a written form of communication and not have to make it a constitutional amendment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Posted August 18, 2014 at 03:20 AM Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 at 03:20 AM The only reason "written" would not already include email is if the organization is interpreting the constitution so as to not include it. If that is the case, then the constitution would need to be changed in such a way that it is interpreted to include it. However, it is possible that only a few people are interpreting it to not included email and the organization has not made that interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Ed Posted August 18, 2014 at 04:50 AM Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 at 04:50 AM The only reason "written" would not already include email is if the organization is interpreting the constitution so as to not include it. If that is the case, then the constitution would need to be changed in such a way that it is interpreted to include it. Also, the Constitution is up to interpretation then. If the organization is over 20 years old, then the founder(s) likely did not realize how important e-mail would become. As such, a member could claim that an e-mail is not covered in the Constitution as that was not acceptable in the past. P.S. I also argue that an e-mail would count as 'written' notice, but at the end of the day, it is up to the organization, not anyone on this forum, to decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Posted August 18, 2014 at 11:32 AM Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 at 11:32 AM Also, the Constitution is up to interpretation then. If the organization is over 20 years old, then the founder(s) likely did not realize how important e-mail would become. As such, a member could claim that an e-mail is not covered in the Constitution as that was not acceptable in the past. P.S. I also argue that an e-mail would count as 'written' notice, but at the end of the day, it is up to the organization, not anyone on this forum, to decide. I think it would require more than just, "they didn't do it that way in the good ol' days." If we aren't careful, we'll be telling them that notice must be on paper and scribed in cursive with a quill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Britton Posted August 18, 2014 at 02:44 PM Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 at 02:44 PM The only reason "written" would not already include email is if the organization is interpreting the constitution so as to not include it. If that is the case, then the constitution would need to be changed in such a way that it is interpreted to include it. However, it is possible that only a few people are interpreting it to not included email and the organization has not made that interpretation. However, if the organization is incorporated or somehow falls under the control of a jurisdiction's non profit statutes there may be other considerations. This may actually be a legal question......you may need to consult the opinion of a qualified legal professional to determine the answer to this question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Guest Posted August 18, 2014 at 03:10 PM Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 at 03:10 PM Though in my opinion "written" also includes e-mail it would be a good idea to amend the Constitution to specify it in order to lessen the chances of arguments later. I was really hoping we could just make the motion to accept email as a written form of communication and not have to make it a constitutional amendmentI think Mr. Harrison's advice is sound but I also think the organization could give members the option of receiving notices via e-mail without having to amend the constitution. Some may not have e-mail addresses and even those who do might prefer receiving their notices the old-fashioned way. For example, I've chosen to receive bank statements via e-mail but (somewhat inexplicably) I've not yet made that choice for my electric bill. Another consideration is whether proof that (and when) a notice was sent might be needed. This is more easily achieved when sent via the USPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Lages Posted August 18, 2014 at 03:28 PM Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 at 03:28 PM If you have adopted RONR as your parliamentary authority (in your constitution and/or bylaws) the following statement may help resolve your situation: "When notice is required to be sent, unless a different standard is specified that requirement is met if written notice is sent to each member either:a) by postal mail to the member's last known address; orb ) by a form of electronic communication, such as e-mail or fax, by which the member has agreed to receive notice." (RONR, 11th.ed. p.89, ll.16-22) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Guest Posted August 18, 2014 at 03:44 PM Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 at 03:44 PM . . . by which the member has agreed to receive notice." (RONR, 11th.ed. p.89, ll.16-22) Thanks for that citation. I'm glad to see that RONR takes the "opt in" approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Erica Posted August 18, 2014 at 04:44 PM Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 at 04:44 PM Thank you everyone, this has been very helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary c Tesser Posted August 19, 2014 at 03:04 PM Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 at 03:04 PM Thanks for that citation. I'm glad to see that RONR takes the "opt in" approach. You still haven't read it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Guest Posted August 19, 2014 at 03:39 PM Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 at 03:39 PM You still haven't read it? It's on my list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Ed Posted August 21, 2014 at 04:49 AM Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 at 04:49 AM If you have adopted RONR as your parliamentary authority (in your constitution and/or bylaws) the following statement may help resolve your situation: "When notice is required to be sent, unless a different standard is specified that requirement is met if written notice is sent to each member either:a) by postal mail to the member's last known address; orb ) by a form of electronic communication, such as e-mail or fax, by which the member has agreed to receive notice." (RONR, 11th.ed. p.89, ll.16-22) Sounds like a solution to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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