Guest Guest Posted September 8, 2014 at 11:06 PM Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 at 11:06 PM Is it illegal if a Board refuses to follow the Bylaws of the organization? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Harrison Posted September 8, 2014 at 11:41 PM Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 at 11:41 PM The General Membership should definitely consider implementing disciplinary proceedings against the Board members if they are acting against the bylaws. As for the legality of their actions you will need to ask a lawyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Goldsworthy Posted September 11, 2014 at 09:47 PM Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 at 09:47 PM Is it illegal if a Board refuses to follow the Bylaws of the organization?Beware.Rules which are "in the nature of parliamentary rules" are suspendable.So, theoretically, yes, a board might not voluntarily follow a certain rule embedded in the bylaws (if it is a certain kind of rule) and yet not violate Robert's Rules of Order's general rule regarding bylaws obedience.*** Any special rules of order should be adopted separately from the bylaws and should be printed in the same booklet with, but under a heading separate from, the bylaws. Although rules in the nature of special rules of order are sometimes played within the bylaws―as occurs most frequently in the case of a society's prescribing its own order of business―such an arrangement is less desirable, since it may lead to cases of uncertainty as to whether a particular rules can be suspended.[see p. 17] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Guest Posted September 11, 2014 at 09:50 PM Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 at 09:50 PM Is it illegal if a Board refuses to follow the Bylaws of the organization? Yes. It's illegal to break the law. That's what it means to be illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted September 12, 2014 at 12:44 AM Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 at 12:44 AM Yes. It's illegal to break the law. That's what it means to be illegal. Well, yes, but the question is whether it is illegal to violate the organization's bylaws, not whether it is illegal to violate the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Guest Posted September 12, 2014 at 01:23 AM Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 at 01:23 AM Well, yes, but the question is whether it is illegal to violate the organization's bylaws, not whether it is illegal to violate the law. What's the difference? Is an illegal forward pass not illegal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Goldsworthy Posted September 12, 2014 at 09:19 PM Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 at 09:19 PM What's the difference? Is an illegal forward pass not illegal?You might as well ask,"Are the 'Laws of Chess' not laws?" (Answer: No, the laws of chess are not laws. They are rules of a game. No state, no district attorney, is obligated to enforce rules of a game.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Posted September 12, 2014 at 10:15 PM Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 at 10:15 PM You might as well ask,"Are the 'Laws of Chess' not laws?" (Answer: No, the laws of chess are not laws. They are rules of a game. No state, no district attorney, is obligated to enforce rules of a game.)Perhaps not, but the adjudicator of a chess tournament is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted September 18, 2014 at 07:18 PM Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 at 07:18 PM Beware.Rules which are "in the nature of parliamentary rules" are suspendable.So, theoretically, yes, a board might not voluntarily follow a certain rule embedded in the bylaws (if it is a certain kind of rule) and yet not violate Robert's Rules of Order's general rule regarding bylaws obedience.*** Any special rules of order should be adopted separately from the bylaws and should be printed in the same booklet with, but under a heading separate from, the bylaws. Although rules in the nature of special rules of order are sometimes played within the bylaws―as occurs most frequently in the case of a society's prescribing its own order of business―such an arrangement is less desirable, since it may lead to cases of uncertainty as to whether a particular rules can be suspended.[see p. 17] I knew that the general assembly could suspend a rule in the bylaws (presuming it's in the nature of a rule of order) but does the board have the authority to do that as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted September 19, 2014 at 12:14 AM Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 at 12:14 AM I knew that the general assembly could suspend a rule in the bylaws (presuming it's in the nature of a rule of order) but does the board have the authority to do that as well? I think it depends on the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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