Guest Gary Posted September 9, 2014 at 03:45 AM Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 at 03:45 AM Can there be any way two main motions can exist at the same time? We had a motion to adopt something, but the next agenda item had to be disposed of first. The chair wanted to delay a vote on the first item, and wanted to take care of the second. I point of ordered to have the first motion maker withdraw his motion, along with the seconder, but was there any other RONR way to do this? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Posted September 9, 2014 at 04:18 AM Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 at 04:18 AM This appears to be the rare case when the motion to table a motion is in order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Guest Posted September 9, 2014 at 02:31 PM Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 at 02:31 PM This appears to be the rare case when the motion to table a motion is in order. Which the cognoscenti refer to as the motion to Lay on the Table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted September 10, 2014 at 12:52 AM Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 at 12:52 AM Can there be any way two main motions can exist at the same time? Two main motions cannot be pending at the same time, but there are a number of ways to temporarily dispose of a main motion. We had a motion to adopt something, but the next agenda item had to be disposed of first. The chair wanted to delay a vote on the first item, and wanted to take care of the second. I point of ordered to have the first motion maker withdraw his motion, along with the seconder, but was there any other RONR way to do this? Thanks. A Point of Order was not the appropriate tool (since no rule had been violated), but otherwise the way you did it works fine if the motion maker is willing to withdraw his motion and the assembly agrees to it. The seconder's permission is not required. Another way to do it would have been a motion to Lay on the Table. It is not debatable and requires a majority vote for adoption. If adopted, the pending motion is set aside until the assembly adopts a motion to Take from the Table (which is also undebatable and requires a majority vote for adoption). It is used in exactly this situation - when the assembly wishes to temporarily set aside the pending business in order to reach some other matter which requires the assembly's attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gary Posted September 10, 2014 at 02:34 AM Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 at 02:34 AM To leave a main motion on the floor and take up another motion was in my opinion a violation of Roberts rule, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Posted September 10, 2014 at 02:46 AM Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 at 02:46 AM To leave a main motion on the floor and take up another motion was in my opinion a violation of Roberts rule, no?It is correct that having two motions "on the floor" would be a violation. However, if the second motion is made before the first is disposed of, the point of order should be that the second motion is improper, not the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted September 10, 2014 at 12:48 PM Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 at 12:48 PM To leave a main motion on the floor and take up another motion was in my opinion a violation of Roberts rule, no? Yes, that's what the Table is for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Lages Posted September 10, 2014 at 02:54 PM Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 at 02:54 PM To leave a main motion on the floor and take up another motion was in my opinion a violation of Roberts rule, no? No, not necessarily. The rule in RONR is that two main motions may not be pending a the same time. There are many subsidiary motions, privileged motions, and incidental motions that are in order, and in some cases are only applicable, when a main motion is pending ('on the floor'). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted September 10, 2014 at 09:06 PM Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 at 09:06 PM Sorry I should have said two main motions, as was happening. The original question was answered by Josh, Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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