Raffles during meetings

[Guest Paul]

Under Robert's are 50/50 raffles permitted as part of the business meeting or must they be conducted after the meeting is adjourned?

[Edgar Guest]

Robert's doesn't care.

[Bruce Lages]

Another item for inclusion in the 12th edition? I think there's still some room left in vol.6

[Kim Goldsworthy]

See RONR 11th ed. page 362 (Section 41, "Order of Business").

 

A raffle will probably best be placed on one's agenda either as:

(a.) Good of the Order, General Good and Welfare, or Open Forum; or

(b.) Annoucements.

 

These (a and/or b) would be entertained:

• after adjournment is voted on affirmatively, but

• before the chair adjourns the meeting.

 

You won't find the word "raffle" or "drawing" in Robert's Rules of Order.

(The base word "draw" does appear, but not in reference to a random pulling of a ticket.)

[Gary Novosielski]

See RONR 11th ed. page 362 (Section 41, "Order of Business").

 

A raffle will probably best be placed on one's agenda either as:

(a.) Good of the Order, General Good and Welfare, or Open Forum; or

(b.) Annoucements.

 

These (a and/or would be entertained:

• after adjournment is voted on affirmatively, but

• before the chair adjourns the meeting.

 

I can't find any support for that in my copy of RONR.

 

The interval between an affirmative vote on adjournment and actual adjournment should last only long enough for the chair to say "The Ayes have it and the meeting is..."

 

Good of the Order / Announcements / Program are usually placed at the end of the order of business, but not after a vote to adjourn.   

 

In fact, RONR says: 

 

If there is to be a talk, film, or other program of a cultural, educational, or civic nature, it is usually presented before the meeting is adjourned, since it may prompt a desire on the part of the assembly to take action.

 

[Kim Goldsworthy]

I can't find any support for that in my copy of RONR.

The interval between an affirmative vote on adjournment and actual adjournment should last only long enough for the chair to say "The Ayes have it and the meeting is..."

See page 238 (Section 21)

PARLIAMENTARY STEPS THAT ARE IN ORDER WHILE THE PRIVILEGED MOTION TO ADJOURN IS PENDING, OR AFTER THE ASSEMBLY HAS VOTED TO ADJOURN.

Although the privileged motion to Adjourn is undebatable, the following parliamentary steps are in order while it is pending.

[…]

[6 bullet items]

[…]

Regardless of the type of motion by which it is voted to adjourn, the meeting is not closed until the chair has declared that the meeting “is adjourned” (or “stands adjourned”), and members should not leave their seats until this declaration has been made.  After it has been voted to adjourn but before the chair has declared the meeting adjourned, it is still in order to take any of the steps listed in the preceding paragraph, if necessary.  

 

[Dan Honemann]

See page 238 (Section 21)

PARLIAMENTARY STEPS THAT ARE IN ORDER WHILE THE PRIVILEGED MOTION TO ADJOURN IS PENDING, OR AFTER THE ASSEMBLY HAS VOTED TO ADJOURN.

Although the privileged motion to Adjourn is undebatable, the following parliamentary steps are in order while it is pending.

[…]

[6 bullet items]

[…]

Regardless of the type of motion by which it is voted to adjourn, the meeting is not closed until the chair has declared that the meeting “is adjourned” (or “stands adjourned”), and members should not leave their seats until this declaration has been made.  After it has been voted to adjourn but before the chair has declared the meeting adjourned, it is still in order to take any of the steps listed in the preceding paragraph, if necessary.  

 

 

"To hold a 50/50 raffle" does not appear to be one of the 6 parliamentary steps listed. 

[George Mervosh]

"To hold a 50/50 raffle" does not appear to be one of the 6 parliamentary steps listed. 

 

Would an announcement that "drinks will be served on Mr. Lages' boat" fit the definition of "important'? 

[Dan Honemann]

Would an announcement that "drinks will be served on Mr. Lages' boat" fit the definition of "important'? 

 

Without a doubt!

[Gary Novosielski]

Would an announcement that "drinks will be served on Mr. Lages' boat" fit the definition of "important'? 

I should think so!

[Gary Novosielski]

See page 238 (Section 21)

PARLIAMENTARY STEPS THAT ARE IN ORDER WHILE THE PRIVILEGED MOTION TO ADJOURN IS PENDING, OR AFTER THE ASSEMBLY HAS VOTED TO ADJOURN.

Although the privileged motion to Adjourn is undebatable, the following parliamentary steps are in order while it is pending.

[…]

[6 bullet items]

[…]

Regardless of the type of motion by which it is voted to adjourn, the meeting is not closed until the chair has declared that the meeting “is adjourned” (or “stands adjourned”), and members should not leave their seats until this declaration has been made.  After it has been voted to adjourn but before the chair has declared the meeting adjourned, it is still in order to take any of the steps listed in the preceding paragraph, if necessary.  

Part of the second [...] says:  

Any of the above steps that are desired should be taken care of earlier, if possible;

 

 

Edited to add:

I guess this means that these steps fall into that small window on the spectrum of importance that comprises business that is far too important to wait for the next meeting, yet not quite important enough for anyone in the entire assembly to have remembered it before it was time to adjourn.

[Bruce Lages]

Would an announcement that "drinks will be served on Mr. Lages' boat" fit the definition of "important'? 

 

You've got only two weeks before we'd have to do that on dry land. Otherwise, the floating bar will re-open next year.