Where to get a copy of the RONR

[ctaylor1079]

Where can a copy of the RONR be obtained? 

[Richard Brown]

Where can a copy of the RONR be obtained? 

 

Here:  http://www.robertsrules.com/book.html

And from any good bookstore, from Amazon.com, and from the National Association of Parliamentarians, among others.

https://netforum.avectra.com/eweb/Shopping/Shopping.aspx?Site=NAP&WebCode=Shopping&cart=0

 

Edited to add:  Make sure you get "the right book":  Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised, 11th edition, consisting of 716 pages. 

[ctaylor1079]

Is it available for download at all by chance?

[Richard Brown]

Is it available for download at all by chance?

 

No.  The only online version is almost 100 years old and has been superseded many times by updated editions.  It's from the 1915 4th edition.  We are now in the 2011 11th edition.  It is very much outdated, although the basic rules are mostly the same.  For any organization that has adopted Robert's Rules of Order as the parliamentary authority, though, only the current 11th edition is binding.

 

There is a CD-ROM available from NAP (The National Association of Parliamentarians) and also on the first link I gave you.  There is a link which will ultimately take you here:  http://www.robertsrules.com/pdfs/RR%20Website%20Robert%20Rules%20Order%20Form_2013.pdf

[ctaylor1079]

Excellent! Thanks much!

[Edgar Guest]

It is very much outdated, although the basic rules are mostly the same.

 

So maybe not very much outdated?

[ctaylor1079]

So maybe not very much outdated?

Im intereested in section containing information about how to properly notify the body of a by laws amendment. Any advice that I could find on the internet?

[Richard Brown]

So maybe not very much outdated?

 

Well, I'd say the devil is in the details and the 11th edition has a lot more details than the 4th edition, some of which have changed.  And the 11th edition has a few hundred more pages of those details.   

[Edgar Guest]

Well, I'd say the devil is in the details and the 11th edition has a lot more details than the 4th edition, some of which have changed.  And the 11th edition has a few hundred more pages of those details.

Yes, but . . .

 

. . . the basic rules are mostly the same.

[Richard Brown]

Im intereested in section containing information about how to properly notify the body of a by laws amendment. Any advice that I could find on the internet?

 

I normally wouldn't post this much, but since you seem to need this information and I suspect you need it in a hurry, here is what RONR says about giving notice of proposed bylaw amendments.  Keep in mind that there is a lot more to amending the bylaws than just this section, but I think this section answers your primary question.  It's on page 596 of RONR:

 

"Giving Notice of Amendments

Notice of a bylaw amendment should be formally worded in a form such as "To amend Article IV, Section 2, by striking out ‘March' and inserting ‘April' after the words ‘second Tuesday in.'" When the bylaws do not place a limitation on those who can give notice of a bylaw amendment, any member is entitled to do so. If notice is to be given at a meeting, this is usually done under new business, although it can be done at any time, even after it has been voted to adjourn if the chair has not actually declared the meeting adjourned. A bylaws committee can give notice in that part of the order of business set aside for committee reports. If notice is to be sent with the call of the meeting at which the amendment will be introduced, the society is responsible for paying the cost of sending such notice, not the member proposing the amendment. When notice has been given of a bylaw amendment, it becomes a general order for the meeting at which it is to be considered. The notice should fairly inform the members of the changes contemplated. Showing the existing bylaw and the bylaw with the proposed changes in parallel columns is a good device so long as the exact amendment, stated in a formal manner, is set out at the top across both columns. When notice of a bylaw amendment is given in open meeting, it cannot be considered at that time, except to be discussed informally and briefly at the discretion of the presiding officer (see also pp. 395–96)."

 

Even if notice of a proposed bylaw change is made at the previous meeting, it is customary, and often required, that the "call of the meeting"  (the meeting notice) contain the full text of proposed bylaw changes.  Read carefully what your bylaws say about bylaw amendments.  The important thing is that the membership must be given fair notice of exactly what the proposed changes are.

 

[J. J.]

And there have been some changes.  Of the top of my head, Lay on the Table is slightly different.  What constitutes a mass meeting is slightly different.   There has a much better description of how custom functions. 

[Richard Brown]

And there have been some changes.  Of the top of my head, Lay on the Table is slightly different.  What constitutes a mass meeting is slightly different.   There has a much better description of how custom functions. 

 

And the provisions on disciplinary procedures have been greatly expanded.

[ctaylor1079]

Thanks so much! You all are a huge help! And I'll buy the copy so I can quit asking you all! I just want to do things right!

[J. J.]

And the provisions on disciplinary procedures have been greatly expanded.

 

 

Agreed, even since the 10th edition. 

[jstackpo]

Thanks so much! You all are a huge help! And I'll buy the copy so I can quit asking you all! I just want to do things right!

 

I'll bet you have a few questions anyway.   Don't hesitate to ask them.

[Guest]

Informative writing ! I am thankful for the facts , Does someone know where my company might locate a blank a form document to fill in ?

[Hieu H. Huynh]

Please post as a new topic. And what is meant by "a blank a form document to fill in?"