Guest Nathan Posted October 11, 2014 at 10:24 PM Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 at 10:24 PM Does the president of the HOA Board of Directors vote on motions on the floor? If, so when and under what circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. J. Posted October 11, 2014 at 10:28 PM Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 at 10:28 PM If he is a member and the vote is by ballot, or his vote effects the result, yes. He should abstain in other cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Guest Posted October 11, 2014 at 10:29 PM Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 at 10:29 PM All members present at the meeting have the right to vote. Some members (e.g. the president) should sometimes refrain from exercising that right. See FAQ #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Guest Posted October 11, 2014 at 10:30 PM Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 at 10:30 PM He should abstain in other cases. Even in a "small" board"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. J. Posted October 12, 2014 at 02:08 PM Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 at 02:08 PM Even in a "small" board"? No. Is this a small board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted October 12, 2014 at 03:02 PM Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 at 03:02 PM Well, we do know it's a board. I'm not familiar with HOA boards first hand. How big do they usually get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted October 12, 2014 at 03:41 PM Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 at 03:41 PM Does the president of the HOA Board of Directors vote on motions on the floor? If, so when and under what circumstances. See FAQ #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted October 12, 2014 at 03:43 PM Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 at 03:43 PM I've never understood why our guests so often focus on the question of whether or not a presiding officer should refrain from voting since, no matter how large the assembly, he is never obliged to refrain from voting whenever his vote will (or may, in the case of a ballot vote) make any difference. It makes much more sense to focus on other questions relating to his involvement in the proceedings, such as whether or not he should speak in debate, since this may, in fact, make a difference. (All of this assumes, of course, that the presiding officer is a member of the assembly, and that the rules in RONR apply.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted October 12, 2014 at 09:34 PM Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 at 09:34 PM I've never understood why our guests so often focus on the question of whether or not a presiding officer should refrain from voting since, no matter how large the assembly, he is never obliged to refrain from voting whenever his vote will (or may, in the case of a ballot vote) make any difference. It makes much more sense to focus on other questions relating to his involvement in the proceedings, such as whether or not he should speak in debate, since this may, in fact, make a difference. (All of this assumes, of course, that the presiding officer is a member of the assembly, and that the rules in RONR apply.) I've asked myself the same thing. Since, as you say, the chair can always vote whenever it could possibly matter, I think the questions must be coming from people who disagree with the chair on some issue, and are seeking some justification for preventing the chair from voting on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Brown Posted October 12, 2014 at 10:47 PM Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 at 10:47 PM I've never understood why our guests so often focus on the question of whether or not a presiding officer should refrain from voting since, no matter how large the assembly, he is never obliged to refrain from voting whenever his vote will (or may, in the case of a ballot vote) make any difference. It makes much more sense to focus on other questions relating to his involvement in the proceedings, such as whether or not he should speak in debate, since this may, in fact, make a difference. I think it's just due to the widely held erroneous belief that the presiding officer cannot vote or votes only in case of a tie. And in small clubs people are used to the president being an active participant. I'm constantly amazed at the strongly held but erroneous beliefs about parliamentary procedure. To be uninformed is one thing and I can understand how some people just don't care about it and don't know anything about it and don't pretend to know anything. But I am at a loss to explain how some people are convinced that their screwball ideas from somewhere out in left field are absolutely correct and they will stand up in meetings and claim to be an authority on the subject. I've heard some new ones in just the past two hours about a contentious meeting that took place yesterday. I would love to know where some people get their crazy ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Guest Posted October 12, 2014 at 10:51 PM Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 at 10:51 PM But I am at a loss to explain how some people are convinced that their screwball ideas from somewhere out in left field are absolutely correct and they will stand up in meetings and claim to be an authority on the subject. Me too. Which is why I stay far away from churches, temples, and mosques. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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