Voting for president position

[Guest Felecia Moriels]

Two people in the ballot for for position of president, before the winner is sworn in to office she resigns, does the person that lost move up to that position or can another ballot be re created and others are considered for the office of presidency

[Edgar Guest]

No one "moves up". In other words, the "loser" doesn't win.

 

Whether you have an incomplete election or a "mid-term" vacancy is a subject for frequent debate on this forum. And I can never remember how it ends up.

[Robert B Fish]

No.  Depending on the details, you either have a vacancy or an incomplete election.  The spot does not automatically go to the second place person.

 

-Bob

[Josh Martin]

Two people in the ballot for for position of president, before the winner is sworn in to office she resigns, does the person that lost move up to that position or can another ballot be re created and others are considered for the office of presidency

The person that lost does not "move up." Based on the facts presented, it seems to me that the election was complete but there is (or will be) a vacancy in the office of President. So no, there will not be another election for President. When the vacancy arises, the Vice President will become President, and there will be a vacancy in the office of Vice President.

Additionally, the fact that the President has not yet been "sworn in" doesn't mean anything. Swearing in an officer is purely ceremonial, and does not affect the time at which officers take office. (Immediately, unless your bylaws provide otherwise.)

No one "moves up". In other words, the "loser" doesn't win.

 

Whether you have an incomplete election or a "mid-term" vacancy is a subject for frequent debate on this forum. And I can never remember how it ends up.

If I understand the facts correctly, the election is already complete, but the bylaws provide for a delay before the newly elected President takes office. So this is not handled as an incomplete election.

[Edgar Guest]

If I understand the facts correctly . . . 

 

Aye, there's the rub.

[Gary Novosielski]

Two people in the ballot for for position of president, before the winner is sworn in to office she resigns, does the person that lost move up to that position or can another ballot be re created and others are considered for the office of presidency

 

No.  Since the second person could not possibly have achieved a majority vote.

 

I'm not clear how you can resign if you're not yet in office.   And once you have accepted the office, it's too late to "decline", so you might well have a vacancy immediately upon the effective date when people take office. 

 

If that's the case (and if I understand the situation, which is even money at best) your VP-elect may succeed to the presidency at that point, creating a vacancy in the VP position.  But that's a pretty big IF.

[Transpower]

The ceremony of "swearing in" doesn't change the situation one way or another.  The VP becomes P, and then the board fills in the vacancy for VP.

[Hieu H. Huynh]

... the board fills in the vacancy...

 

This may or may not be the case depending on the bylaws.

[Gary Novosielski]

The ceremony of "swearing in" doesn't change the situation one way or another.  The VP becomes P, and then the board fills in the vacancy for VP.

 

Maybe.

[Richard Brown]

I agree with Hieu's and Gary's comments.  The board may or may not be the body to fill the vacancy.  Also, depending on the organization's bylaws, it may be that an officer does not assume the duties of his office until there is an installation ceremony or he takes the oath of office.  It is true that in the absence of a contrary provision in the bylaws, an election takes effect immediately.....but many bylaws provide to the contrary.

 

Also, depending on the bylaws, the VP may or may not automatically become P in the event of a vacancy in the office of the P.

[Gary Novosielski]

Also, depending on the bylaws, the VP may or may not automatically become P in the event of a vacancy in the office of the P.

 True, but that is still the way to bet.    Automatic succession is the rule rather than the exception in nearly all societies.  Filling vacancies by board appointment is pretty common but less universal.

 

But the only way to make that bet a sure thing is to refer to the bylaws.

[Transpower]

Agreed, Gary.