Guest Robertvernon Posted May 14, 2015 at 06:06 PM Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 at 06:06 PM All positions on our Board are for two years.- Concerning these two positions we have a dilema.At our AGM the President Elect takes up the Presidency and a new President Elect is voted in.The Immediate Past President becomes a member for the next two year term.PresidentPresident ElectImmediate Past President During the two years term the President Resigns from the Board before the term is up.( fell out of favor)In an Executive meeting to deal with this:The president elect is voted in to take up the Presidency.Who now is the immediate Past President? The president who has resigned would make this akward. The existing immediate past president before this all happened- whats his status?Does he continue his two year term? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted May 14, 2015 at 06:09 PM Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 at 06:09 PM That's why most of us here would recommend against including an Immediate Past President in the bylaws as an office. It looks like you have awkward times ahead of you. The president who fell out of favor is obviously your Immediate Past President. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted May 14, 2015 at 06:17 PM Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 at 06:17 PM Who now is the immediate Past President? The president who has resigned would make this akward. The existing immediate past president before this all happened- whats his status?Does he continue his two year term? In the order of your questions/observation... 1) The person who just resigned. This is not covered in RONR, but is based on the plain meaning of the words. 2) Awkward? Too bad -- it is what your bylaws say. See comment on IPP below..3) No. His term on the board is over - he has been replaced by your new IPP Comment: IPP is a Bad Idea:And here's some reasons why the position is a bad idea:In my personal view, setting up an "official" Immediate Past President (IPP) position is not a particularly good idea. The most telling argument is the real possibility of a close and bitter race for the presidency, with the current president running (for a second term) against an "outsider". And the outsider - the "reform candidate", perhaps - wins but is still stuck with the thorn of the IPP on the Board in a position to snipe at the new president. And perhaps attempt to undermine the new president's plans. Not to mention vote against them.If the erstwhile president is a "good guy" the new president can (usually, depending on the bylaws) appoint him to a pre-existing committee - or even have him chair one, which might put him on the Board - as the new president sees fit. That way the IPP's experience and value can be put to good use, when needed, without the danger of setting up an adversarial situation which would require a bylaw amendment to get out of.Here's some more reasons1) The President resigns and wants nothing to do with the organization. 2) The President simply doesn't run for election again because he's had enough, and never shows up at a board meeting. 3) The President is booted out of office for being incompetent, or for something more nefarious. 4) The President dies. 5) The President resigns and moves (wants to help but isn't around).6) Even worse is the bylaw assignment of the IPP to chair a committee - such as nominating. Then he dies/quits/leaves town, &c. You are then stuck with an unfillable (by definition) vacancy.Note that except for item 4, the IPP may well be part of the quorum requirement for meetings, even though he never shows up. You can set out to amend the bylaws if you wish to simply eliminate the IPP position from your bylaws. That will take care of the awkwardness quite effectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted May 14, 2015 at 08:05 PM Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 at 08:05 PM So I take it then the president who has resigned or is is booted out now is actually the immediate past president.because of this set up.Then a by law change to delete this post would appear the only remedy ?could i have some views please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted May 14, 2015 at 08:10 PM Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 at 08:10 PM So I take it then the president who has resigned or is is booted out now is actually the immediate past president.because of this set up.Then a by law change to delete this post would appear the only remedy ? Yes and Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Brown Posted May 14, 2015 at 08:38 PM Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 at 08:38 PM Agreeing with the others, you can amend your bylaws to eliminate the position. Since bylaw amendments take effect immediately unless a future date is specified, it would have the effect of removing the IPP from the board the moment the amendment is adopted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Guest Posted May 14, 2015 at 08:40 PM Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 at 08:40 PM I agree with Mr. Brown (who agrees with the others). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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