Nan_P2950 Posted July 9, 2015 at 09:38 PM Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 at 09:38 PM In the past, when we approved a motion in relation to events being held, we would put them in Unfinish Business on the agenda to hear the updates/plans of the up coming events. Now, after doing some serious reading in the RONR 11th edition, I come to find that is not what Unfinish Business is for. Unfinish Business is for any pending motion(s) at the time of adjournment. Any postponed motion(s), motions that were laid on the table, and any special orders go under the Unfinish Business, yes?Any suggestions as to how we can set up "reports" or updates for the upcoming events, to know how it is progressing? It wouldn't necessarily be a committee... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Guest Posted July 9, 2015 at 09:42 PM Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 at 09:42 PM Any suggestions as to how we can set up "reports" or updates for the upcoming events, to know how it is progressing? It wouldn't necessarily be a committee... Why wouldn't it be a committee? It could be "a committee of one". Or you can simply direct whoever's in charge of the event to report back on a regular basis (weekly? monthly?). But the person in charge of the event may tell you that everything's going great when it's not. By the way, it's unfinished business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nan_P2950 Posted July 9, 2015 at 09:55 PM Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 at 09:55 PM If it were to be a committee... do we need to make a motion to create one, everytime? Didn't know a committee can be of one person. Always thought for a committee, had to be at least two people. (Not to be confused with, for a motion being made from a committee with two people, a 2nd is not needed). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Guest Posted July 9, 2015 at 10:00 PM Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 at 10:00 PM If it were to be a committee... do we need to make a motion to create one, everytime? If your bylaws designate standing (i.e. "permanent") committees you could amend your bylaws to add an Events Committee that would be responsible for overseeing all events. Or you could create special (i.e. "ad hoc") committees only for those events which need oversight. Or, when you adopt the motion that authorizes the event, you could include a provision requiring regular progress reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nan_P2950 Posted July 9, 2015 at 10:17 PM Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 at 10:17 PM Our bylaws says, in a section: "The president and/or Board of Directors shall appoint such committees they feel necessary to insure proper operation ofthe Association."In another section: "The general membership may establish committees they feel necessary to insure proper operation of the Association" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted July 9, 2015 at 10:55 PM Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 at 10:55 PM Any postponed motion(s), motions that were laid on the table, and any special orders go under the Unfinish Business, yes?No. Postponed motions come up under General Orders, and special orders come up under Special Orders. Motions that were laid on the table come up when a motion to Take from the Table is adopted.Any suggestions as to how we can set up "reports" or updates for the upcoming events, to know how it is progressing? It wouldn't necessarily be a committee...Some assemblies have a spot on the agenda for "Open Forum" or "Comments for the Good of the Order" or "Announcements" or whatever, which is a great place for stuff which doesn't fit anywhere else.As Edgar suggests, appointing a committee of one is also perfectly appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nan_P2950 Posted July 9, 2015 at 10:58 PM Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 at 10:58 PM No. Postponed motions come up under General Orders, and special orders come up under Special Orders. Motions that were laid on the table come up when a motion to Take from the Table is adopted.Then what would be put under Unfinished Business? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted July 9, 2015 at 11:00 PM Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 at 11:00 PM Then what would be put under Unfinished Business?The motion which was pending when the meeting adjourned, unfinished business which was not reached prior to adjournment, and general orders which were not reached prior to adjournment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nan_P2950 Posted July 9, 2015 at 11:05 PM Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 at 11:05 PM So then it wouldn't be just "Unfinished Business".... but "Unfinished Business and General Orders"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hieu H. Huynh Posted July 10, 2015 at 01:29 PM Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 at 01:29 PM Yes, "Unfinished Business" and "General Orders" are under one heading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Guest Posted July 10, 2015 at 01:46 PM Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 at 01:46 PM So then it wouldn't be just "Unfinished Business".... but "Unfinished Business and General Orders"? Yes, "Unfinished Business" and "General Orders" are under one heading. Though the specific enumeration is somewhat arbitrary. The "standard" order of business is listed on p.353 as:Reading and Approval of Minutes Reports of Officers, Boards, and Standing Committees Reports of Special (Select and Ad Hoc) Committees Special Orders Unfinished Business and General Orders New BusinessBut it could just as easily be:Reading and Approval of Minutes Reports of Officers Reports of Boards Reports of Standing Committees Reports of Special (Select and Ad Hoc) Committees Special Orders Unfinished Business General Orders New BusinessOr:Reading and Approval of Minutes Reports of Officers, Boards, Standing Committees, and Special (Select and Ad Hoc) Committees Special Orders Unfinished Business and General Orders New Business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nan_P2950 Posted July 11, 2015 at 10:43 AM Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 at 10:43 AM Though the specific enumeration is somewhat arbitrary. The "standard" order of business is listed on p.353 as:Reading and Approval of Minutes Reports of Officers, Boards, and Standing Committees Reports of Special (Select and Ad Hoc) Committees Special Orders Unfinished Business and General Orders New BusinessBut it could just as easily be:Reading and Approval of Minutes Reports of Officers Reports of Boards Reports of Standing Committees Reports of Special (Select and Ad Hoc) Committees Special Orders Unfinished Business General Orders New BusinessOr:Reading and Approval of Minutes Reports of Officers, Boards, Standing Committees, and Special (Select and Ad Hoc) Committees Special Orders Unfinished Business and General Orders New Business THIS is what I am looking for. THANK YOU! Thank you for this "guidelines". I haven't seen "Unfinished Business" with "General Orders" before... And when I went to the page listed above... There it was... "Unfinished Business and General Orders". I'm stunned how you (well... me) don't see it til someone else points it out... BOOM... there it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted July 11, 2015 at 11:46 AM Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 at 11:46 AM THIS is what I am looking for. THANK YOU! Thank you for this "guidelines". I haven't seen "Unfinished Business" with "General Orders" before... And when I went to the page listed above... There it was... "Unfinished Business and General Orders". I'm stunned how you (well... me) don't see it til someone else points it out... BOOM... there it is! But keep in mind that Unfinished Business and General Orders are two different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nan_P2950 Posted July 11, 2015 at 11:50 AM Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 at 11:50 AM But keep in mind that Unfinished Business and General Orders are two different things. Yes, I have been reading them to learn the difference.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted July 11, 2015 at 12:38 PM Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 at 12:38 PM Though the specific enumeration is somewhat arbitrary. The "standard" order of business is listed on p.353 as:Reading and Approval of Minutes Reports of Officers, Boards, and Standing Committees Reports of Special (Select and Ad Hoc) Committees Special Orders Unfinished Business and General Orders New BusinessBut it could just as easily be:Reading and Approval of Minutes Reports of Officers Reports of Boards Reports of Standing Committees Reports of Special (Select and Ad Hoc) Committees Special Orders Unfinished Business General Orders New BusinessOr:Reading and Approval of Minutes Reports of Officers, Boards, Standing Committees, and Special (Select and Ad Hoc) Committees Special Orders Unfinished Business and General Orders New Business But you do realize, I assume, that if either rearrangement is made it will have an effect upon other rules, such as those relating to when motions may be taken from the table. And to pick a nit, to quote from the book correctly it's "Select or Ad Hoc" not "Select and Ad Hoc". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Guest Posted July 11, 2015 at 02:52 PM Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 at 02:52 PM And to pick a nit, to quote from the book correctly it's "Select or Ad Hoc" not "Select and Ad Hoc". Yes, thanks. Not having the CD-ROM, I "copied and pasted" from the "Dummies" site; the one that infamously lists "Special Orders" as "Special offers". I corrected that, and the capitalizations, but missed the "and//or". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nan_P2950 Posted July 11, 2015 at 03:11 PM Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 at 03:11 PM But you do realize, I assume, that if either rearrangement is made it will have an effect upon other rules, such as those relating to when motions may be taken from the table. I think I got some reading to do.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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