Guest Confused Posted July 30, 2015 at 12:10 AM Report Share Posted July 30, 2015 at 12:10 AM From: http://www.roberts-rules.com/pdf/omni032611b.pdfDefinition of SMALL Small importance Small controversy Small resistance Little to do with number of membersHow would "small importance" be inturpreted?For instance, is making decisions for a multi-million dollar property investment of between 332 - 1,000 investors be considered 'small importance' or is something like the 'holiday decorating committee' for a church winter event in a small town of small importance?What is considered "controversy" in regards to making the decisions to use small board rules?And when 'resistance' is mentioned, what kind are we talking about? Resistance to what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted July 30, 2015 at 12:35 AM Report Share Posted July 30, 2015 at 12:35 AM The only "small" definition in RONR is number of members - around 12 or so (it's fuzzy) is the division line. Where did you turn up those other "definitions"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted July 30, 2015 at 12:36 AM Report Share Posted July 30, 2015 at 12:36 AM From: http://www.roberts-rules.com/pdf/omni032611b.pdfDefinition of SMALLSmall importanceSmall controversySmall resistanceLittle to do with number of membersHow would "small importance" be inturpreted?For instance, is making decisions for a multi-million dollar property investment of between 332 - 1,000 investors be considered 'small importance' or is something like the 'holiday decorating committee' for a church winter event in a small town of small importance?What is considered "controversy" in regards to making the decisions to use small board rules?And when 'resistance' is mentioned, what kind are we talking about? Resistance to what? I don't know the answers to any of these questions. Ask the people who made this presentation. Contrary to what this presentation suggests, RONR defines a small board as one in which there are not more than about a dozen members present. "In a board meeting where there are not more than about a dozen members present, some of the formality that is necessary in a large assembly would hinder business. The rules governing such meetings are different from the rules that hold in other assemblies..." (RONR, 11th ed., pg. 487) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Confused Posted July 30, 2015 at 01:21 AM Report Share Posted July 30, 2015 at 01:21 AM JDStackpoleThe link is in my original post. It is a site run by a registered Parliamentarian that does a lot of trainings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted July 30, 2015 at 01:54 AM Report Share Posted July 30, 2015 at 01:54 AM Got it. Ask Mr. Cuesta where he got his definition -- not out of RONR, that's for sure. Looks like he is just making stuff up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Brown Posted July 30, 2015 at 06:18 AM Report Share Posted July 30, 2015 at 06:18 AM Got it. Ask Mr. Cuesta where he got his definition -- not out of RONR, that's for sure. Looks like he is just making stuff up.It looks like a lot of the information in that guide is based on California's "Davis-Stirling Act" for "common interest developments" such as homeowner associations, etc. Those definitions of "small", however, appear to be completely made up. I can't tell where those definitions came from, but they don't appear to be in the Davis-Stirling Act itself. Interesting. And strange. Very strange, especially coming from a PRP. Downright stunning. I, too, wish someone would ask Mr. Cuesta where he got those definitions from for describing committees and"small boards" that can use the "Small Board Rules"!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted July 30, 2015 at 09:23 AM Report Share Posted July 30, 2015 at 09:23 AM And strange. Very strange, especially coming from a PRP. Downright stunning. You're just kidding, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nancy N. Posted July 30, 2015 at 09:37 AM Report Share Posted July 30, 2015 at 09:37 AM You're just kidding, right? Past his bedtime, he's a dewy-eyed Pollyanna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Posted July 30, 2015 at 01:43 PM Report Share Posted July 30, 2015 at 01:43 PM From: http://www.roberts-rules.com/pdf/omni032611b.pdfDefinition of SMALLSmall importanceSmall controversySmall resistanceLittle to do with number of membersHow would "small importance" be inturpreted?For instance, is making decisions for a multi-million dollar property investment of between 332 - 1,000 investors be considered 'small importance' or is something like the 'holiday decorating committee' for a church winter event in a small town of small importance?What is considered "controversy" in regards to making the decisions to use small board rules?And when 'resistance' is mentioned, what kind are we talking about? Resistance to what? It seems made up to me also. I can't imagine some calling something "small importance." If it isn't important, then why bother having a meeting at all? Small controversy and small resistance may have some merit, but only the fuzziness factor. A board of 15 members might be "about 12" if there are only a few people who care to say anything and the rest are just there to vote. And a board of 9 might benefit from more formal adherence to the rules if they are at each others throats. But 12 is usually a good cutoff point. By the way, I dare you to walk into a meeting of the church Holiday Decorating Committee and tell them that what they are doing is of small importance. I might even be willing to pay to see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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