Guest Harper Posted March 22, 2017 at 02:38 PM Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 at 02:38 PM I apologize for raising a new topic, even though this is in fact a continuation of an older one. For adjourned meetings, do members who signed in at the originally scheduled meeting count toward the quorum at the adjourned meeting even if they can't attend? I could find nothing in RONR. Is it up to the discretion of the chair? Or the BOD? Or is it verboten? FYI: Per my previous post, we've addressed other issues including absentee voters, proxies and disenfranchisement. Thank you. Harper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Coronite Posted March 22, 2017 at 02:53 PM Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 at 02:53 PM Consider the fact that members who leave a (non-adjourned) meeting before it is adjourned no longer count toward the quorum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Katz Posted March 22, 2017 at 02:58 PM Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 at 02:58 PM People who are not present do not count towards quorum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Harper Posted March 22, 2017 at 03:04 PM Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 at 03:04 PM So the problem is compounded. Our proxy rules require that the holder be identified by name. Those, too, would be disqualified if the person carrying the proxy doesn't attend? Apologies for intruding on your time. Harper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Katz Posted March 22, 2017 at 03:05 PM Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 at 03:05 PM I don't see what you're asking. If I give a proxy to a person who isn't at the meeting, there's nothing for me to be disqualified from - I simply haven't done the thing that proxies are about - giving it to someone who is going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Coronite Posted March 22, 2017 at 03:14 PM Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 at 03:14 PM Guest Harper, under your current rules regarding proxies, how would you handle a situation where a person attends a meeting, is carrying a proxy for another, and leaves the meeting 5 minutes after the start before any business is transacted. Would you continue to count that person or the proxy toward the quorum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Harper Posted March 22, 2017 at 04:21 PM Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 at 04:21 PM Guest Harper, under your current rules regarding proxies, how would you handle a situation where a person attends a meeting, is carrying a proxy for another, and leaves the meeting 5 minutes after the start before any business is transacted. Would you continue to count that person or the proxy toward the quorum? Thank you, gentlemen. Under our current rules (perhaps customs), the person carrying the proxy would transfer it to another person in attendance - including his own if he's leaving. We are very loose about handling proxies, but that's what I believe has been done. But the difference this time is that we're dealing with proxies at an adjourned meeting - at the beginning of the meeting. It greatly complicates matters. Thank you all the same. Harper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted March 22, 2017 at 06:42 PM Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 at 06:42 PM I think you need to read FAQ #10 again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Harper Posted March 22, 2017 at 07:49 PM Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 at 07:49 PM 2 hours ago, Daniel H. Honemann said: I think you need to read FAQ #10 again. Thank you, sir. Very clear. Here's our bylaw. We are already counting proxies toward a future quorum from the originally scheduled meeting which would appear to be putting the cart before the horse. A proxy form shall be a signed statement from an absent member delivered to the Secretary prior to the opening of a general meeting and designating a Regular member or the Chairperson of the meeting as his or her proxy. No member shall cast more than two proxy votes, except the Chairperson of the meeting, for whom there is no limitation…. The Secretary shall determine the validity of all proxy forms prior to the opening of the meeting. Harper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted March 22, 2017 at 08:17 PM Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 at 08:17 PM 5 hours ago, Guest Harper said: I could find nothing in RONR. Is it up to the discretion of the chair? Or the BOD? Or is it verboten? 1 hour ago, Daniel H. Honemann said: I think you need to read FAQ #10 again. 25 minutes ago, Guest Harper said: Thank you, sir. Very clear. From FAQ#10 - As a consequence, the answers to any questions concerning the correct use of proxies, the extent of the power conferred by a proxy, the duration, revocability, or transferability of proxies, and so forth, must be found in the provisions of the law or bylaws which require or authorize their use. [RONR (11th ed.), pp. 428-29.] Now, it's clear. We just can't help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Harper Posted March 22, 2017 at 08:55 PM Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 at 08:55 PM 1 hour ago, George Mervosh said: From FAQ#10 - As a consequence, the answers to any questions concerning the correct use of proxies, the extent of the power conferred by a proxy, the duration, revocability, or transferability of proxies, and so forth, must be found in the provisions of the law or bylaws which require or authorize their use. [RONR (11th ed.), pp. 428-29.] Now, it's clear. We just can't help. It seems we're on a slippy slope Mr. Mervosh. Born in Finleyville. Thank you. Harper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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