Guest Zev Posted June 10, 2019 at 08:15 PM Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 at 08:15 PM How about getting rid of any idiomatic expressions? These expressions create problems for non-native speakers and also create a terrible problem for those that may attempt to translate this work into a foreign language. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted June 10, 2019 at 08:23 PM Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 at 08:23 PM Such as...? (serious question, not flippant, you raise a good point) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zev Posted June 11, 2019 at 12:48 AM Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 at 12:48 AM Quote The candidate in lowest place may turn out to be a "dark horse" on whom all factions may prefer to agree. RONR 11th edition page 441 lines 8-10. This is the one that comes to mind. There may be more. And now that I think of it, perhaps I should have been more helpful by having a comprehensive list at the ready. Yuk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zev Posted June 11, 2019 at 01:04 AM Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 at 01:04 AM Quote It should be noted that, under legitimate parliamentary procedure, there is no such thing as "gaveling through" a measure. RONR 11th edition page 387 lines 1-3. Actually, I think this is it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted June 11, 2019 at 11:41 AM Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 at 11:41 AM Won't happen (at least for another decade or so). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Harrison Posted June 11, 2019 at 12:55 PM Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 at 12:55 PM 1 hour ago, Daniel H. Honemann said: Won't happen (at least for another decade or so). Meaning the 12th Edition won't be out for another decade or so? Or this would go into the (lucky) 13th Edition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Elsman Posted June 11, 2019 at 01:28 PM Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 at 01:28 PM (edited) I understand the concept of what is being suggested, but both examples given are very familiar terms with a long history in America. The same is true of those picturesque military expressions that appear here and there, such as a motion "falling to the ground" like a soldier who has been shot on the battlefield. In all these cases, the average American reader of the book takes a draught of American parliamentary history. I'm in favor of preserving them. Edited June 11, 2019 at 01:29 PM by reelsman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted June 11, 2019 at 01:31 PM Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 at 01:31 PM 1 minute ago, reelsman said: I understand the concept of what is being suggested, but both examples given are very familiar terms with a long history in America. The same is true of those picturesque military expressions that appear here and there, such as a motion "falling to the ground" like a soldier who has been shot on the battlefield. In all these cases, the average American reader of the book takes a draught of American parliamentary history. I'm in favor of preserving them. A potential compromise would seem to be to include definitions of these terms, such as in a footnote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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