When options kinda clash!

[Tomm]

RONR States:

"When the adoption of the proposed agenda is pending, it is subject to amendment by majority vote. After the agenda has been adopted by the assembly, no change can be made in it except by two-thirds vote, a vote of the majority of the entire membership, or unanimous consent."

Question: So in the case of a Board meeting with only 9 members, an agenda can, in fact, be amended during either its proposed adoption at the beginning of the meeting or after and during the meeting by a simple majority vote? 

[Josh Martin]

13 minutes ago, Tomm said:

RONR States:

"When the adoption of the proposed agenda is pending, it is subject to amendment by majority vote. After the agenda has been adopted by the assembly, no change can be made in it except by two-thirds vote, a vote of the majority of the entire membership, or unanimous consent."

Question: So in the case of a Board meeting with only 9 members, an agenda can, in fact, be amended during either its proposed adoption at the beginning of the meeting or after and during the meeting by a simple majority vote? 

As the rule clearly states, after the agenda is adopted, it may only be amended by a "two-thirds vote, a vote of the majority of the entire membership, or unanimous consent."

If all of the members of the assembly are present (which may be more likely in a small board), however, and all of them vote, a vote of a majority of the entire membership and a majority vote are the same thing.

Is that what you're getting at?

Edited June 25, 2020 at 08:07 PM by Josh Martin

[Tomm]

Yes, thank you!

It's one of those requirements that you find in other rules (like Rescind) that gives you a couple options if your only considering it in a small Board.  

[Gary Novosielski]

3 minutes ago, Tomm said:

Yes, thank you!

It's one of those requirements that you find in other rules (like Rescind) that gives you a couple options if your only considering it in a small Board.  

Agreed.  In small boards it is often easier to get a majority of the entire membership than a 2/3 vote.

But there are technical differences.  A majority vote still means "of those present and voting", so there is no minimum number of votes required to pass a motion, as long as the Yes votes outnumber the No votes.   A vote of 1-0 would suffice, if the remaining 8 did not vote.

But a majority of the entire membership (in this case 5 of 9)  would mean that five votes would be needed in all cases, even if some members abstained or were absent.

[Greg Goodwiller, PRP]

6 minutes ago, Tomm said:

Yes, thank you!

It's one of those requirements that you find in other rules (like Rescind) that gives you a couple options if your only considering it in a small Board.  

But pay close attention to my colleague's assumptions: all members are present, and all choose to vote. If only three vote in favor, but only one against, it has a two-thirds vote, but not a majority of the entire membership.

[Gary Novosielski]

... even if only two vote in favor, for that matter.