RONR versus Masons

[Guest Puzzling]

At https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentary_procedure it mentions

Of the 99 state legislative chambers in the United States (two for each state except Nebraska, which has a unicameral legislature), Mason's Manual of Legislative Procedure governs parliamentary procedures in 70; Jefferson's Manual governs 13, and Robert's Rules of Order governs four.

Made me wonder which 4 are governed by RONR? 

Also how do masons manual and RONR compare .

[Richard Brown]

Mason's Manual of Legislative Procedure is designed specifically for legislative bodies, which have needs significantly different from those of ordinary voluntary associations and non profit corporations.

[J. J.]

Mason's tend to be more based on court decisions.

Some discussion of the differences are mentioned in "Making Parliamentary Law," Parliamentary Journal, April, 2014, published by the American Institute of Parliamentarians, 

I will be happy to send you a copy of the text if you shoot me a PM with your e-mail.

[Josh Martin]

1 hour ago, Guest Puzzling said:

At https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentary_procedure it mentions

Of the 99 state legislative chambers in the United States (two for each state except Nebraska, which has a unicameral legislature), Mason's Manual of Legislative Procedure governs parliamentary procedures in 70; Jefferson's Manual governs 13, and Robert's Rules of Order governs four.

Made me wonder which 4 are governed by RONR? 

Also how do masons manual and RONR compare .

The four that use RONR are the Kansas Senate, the Rhode Island Senate, and both chambers of the Illinois Legislature: https://www.ncsl.org/documents/legismgt/ILP/99Tab9Pt3.pdf

I would note, however, that in addition to the parliamentary authority, state legislatures generally also have extensive special rules of order, which will take precedence over the parliamentary authority.

[par]

On 2/6/2021 at 7:02 AM, Richard Brown said:

Mason's Manual of Legislative Procedure is designed specifically for legislative bodies, which have needs significantly different from those of ordinary voluntary associations and non profit corporations.

Can we get tl;dr version here?

[Richard Brown]

52 minutes ago, par said:

Can we get tl;dr version here?

No. Not from me at least. 

[Weldon Merritt]

59 minutes ago, par said:

Can we get tl;dr version here?

I don't know what a "tl;dr versioon" is. But whatever it is, I doubt it is available here.

[J. J.]

The book is around the size of RONR, so no, you cannot get a summary. 

[Richard Brown]

32 minutes ago, Weldon Merritt said:

I don't know what a "tl;dr versioon" is. But whatever it is, I doubt it is available here.

It stands for “too long, did not read“ or something similar. And you are right: it is not available here! 🙂

[Atul Kapur]

On 2/6/2021 at 10:02 AM, Richard Brown said:

Mason's Manual of Legislative Procedure is designed specifically for legislative bodies, which have needs significantly different from those of ordinary voluntary associations and non profit corporations.

Tl;dr: The needs of legislative bodies are significantly different from those of ordinary voluntary associations and non profit corporations.