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On 9/19/2021 at 7:32 PM, Guest Global One said:

Does an 'Abstain" vote count towards a "no" vote?

When you abstain, what you are abstaining from is voting.  It does not count as a Yes, nor as a No, nor as a vote cast.  It usually has no effect on the outcome.

Abstentions should normally not be called for, not be counted and not be recorded.  Some chairs will ask for the Ayes, the Noes, and "any abstentions".  This is improper.  A person who does not answer to any of the three has in fact abstained just as surely as someone who shouts I abstain!  So a voice vote should call only for Ayes and Noes.  Some members may complain that they were not given the opportunity to abstain, which for obvious reasons makes no sense.  To abstain, one simply does not vote.

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On 9/19/2021 at 7:32 PM, Guest Global One said:

Does an 'Abstain" vote count towards a "no" vote?

Although an abstention is certainly not a vote, it has the same effect as a "no" vote in the two instances described in RONR, 12th ed., 44:9. The first of these instances is when the vote required is based upon the number of members present, and the second is when it is based upon a majority (or any other fraction) of the entire membership. 

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