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who gets to vote according to Roberts rules?  If the answer is the officers then how are the officers chosen? does the body of the group elect the officers or are they chosen by the president with the body having no say?

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On 11/15/2021 at 10:54 AM, Guest Jeff R said:

who gets to vote according to Roberts rules?

Members of the assembly or group (such as a committee) that is meeting. People who are not members of THAT GROUP cannot vote.  Are you referring to a membership meeting, board meeting, committee meeting, or what?  The type meeting (who is meeting) is important.  We really need more information in order to answer your question.

Edited to add:   At a membership meeting, the president (or presiding officer) normally should not vote except in certain circumstances.  Let's find out more about exactly who is meeting and what your issue is first.  We need more context.

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On 11/15/2021 at 10:20 AM, Guest this is a softball league. said:

The "President" of the league hand picks the Managers and they and ONLY they have a vote for the board. The Managers are not voted on by the players so the players have no say on anything and no representative on tho board. 

What do the bylaws say about how the managers ae chosen and how the board is elected? Also, how do the bylaws define the league membership? 

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On 11/15/2021 at 10:39 AM, Jeff Ruda said:

They say they follow Roberts Rules

I'm reasonably certain that the bylaws say more than just "we follow Robert's Rules." Please quote the provisions regarding league membership, selection of managers, and election of the board.

Also, to avoid confusion, it would be best if you stick with the same guest name for the duration of the thread. Otherwise, it becomes hard to tell if we are talking with one person or several.

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page 2 will not upload... it says... the duties of the officers

A. President- it shall be the duty of the President to preside at all meetings of the organization, to execute all rules and regulations which pertain to the organizations business and to make such appointments as he deems necessary, for the good of the league. he shall serve as an ex-officio member of all committees. the President may not be a Manager of a team while holding office.

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On 11/15/2021 at 10:54 AM, Guest Jeff R said:

who gets to vote according to Roberts rules?

The members of the body that is meeting.

On 11/15/2021 at 10:54 AM, Guest Jeff R said:

If the answer is the officers then how are the officers chosen?

It varies from organization to organization, and this should be defined in the bylaws.

Your bylaws provide that "The organization shall have a president, vice president, secretary and treasurer, elected each January by a majority vote of the current managers, officers and Chief Umpire."

On 11/15/2021 at 10:54 AM, Guest Jeff R said:

does the body of the group elect the officers or are they chosen by the president with the body having no say?

As noted above, your bylaws provide that the officers are chosen "by a majority vote of the current managers, officers and Chief Umpire."

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Based on the bylaws you posted, it appears to me that election of the officers is occurring properly, as provided in the bylaws. And the provision that the president is "to make such appointments as he deems necessary" certainly seems to me to include appointment of the managers. So indeed, it appears that the players have no voice in either process.

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