Limiting speakers and time during a motion without a 2/3 vote of the members present

[Stephen M Rosiere]

When the chair puts motion on the floor and informs the members that only 3 members can speak for and 3 members can speak against and they are limited to 2 minutes each without anyone that has informative answers cannot answer questions and without a 2/3 majority vote of the Members present to limit time and speakerrs, and the motion fails. What recourse do the Members have to reconsider the motion that failed?

Edited November 15, 2021 at 07:20 PM by Stephen M Rosiere
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[Tom Coronite]

It might be wise to raise a point of order when the chair makes such a decree, before the motion is debated and voted on. You shouldn’t wait to see if the motion passes despite the chair’s decree.

Nonetheless, a motion that fails can be made again at a subsequent meeting.

Edited November 15, 2021 at 07:52 PM by Tom Coronite

[Guest Stephen M Rosiere]

None of us were aware of this limitation of speakers and time until we checked with the RONR when the meeting was over. So we can reintroduce the motion at the next meeting? 

[Josh Martin]

On 11/15/2021 at 2:51 PM, Guest Stephen M Rosiere said:

None of us were aware of this limitation of speakers and time until we checked with the RONR when the meeting was over. So we can reintroduce the motion at the next meeting? 

Yes.

[Richard Brown]

On 11/15/2021 at 1:18 PM, Stephen M Rosiere said:

What recourse do the Members have to reconsider the motion that failed?

Steve, technically, it is too late to reconsider the motion after the meeting has ended. However, as my colleagues have pointed out, the motion can be renewed (made again) at the next meeting or at any subsequent meeting. As you have probably figured out, the chair alone cannot limit debate the way he did. Only the assembly can limit debate by means of a two thirds vote.

[Joshua Katz]

On 11/15/2021 at 4:17 PM, Josh Martin said:

Yes.

Agreeing with Mr. Martin, I would add: the reason the answer is yes is that a motion that has failed may be introduced at a later session. It is not because you were not aware of the applicable rules until you checked RONR, nor is it because the chair made a decree that does not appear to be supported by anything. The answer would be yes regardless.