Guest TAD Posted February 14, 2023 at 02:49 PM Report Share Posted February 14, 2023 at 02:49 PM What is the proper procedure if the vice president has two pending charges against them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. J. Posted February 14, 2023 at 04:11 PM Report Share Posted February 14, 2023 at 04:11 PM See Chapter XX of RONR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted February 14, 2023 at 06:08 PM Report Share Posted February 14, 2023 at 06:08 PM On 2/14/2023 at 9:49 AM, Guest TAD said: What is the proper procedure if the vice president has two pending charges against them? What procedure was used to get you to the point of having pending charges at all? If it was done according to RONR (Ch. XX.), then continue to follow those procedures. If you have customized discipline procedures in your bylaws, RONR would have no answer to your question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TAD Posted February 14, 2023 at 07:20 PM Report Share Posted February 14, 2023 at 07:20 PM A member filed charges on him two weeks ago following bylaw procedures another member has filed more charges this week for a different reason also following bylaw procedure. My question is would more than one charge be an automatic dismissal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted February 14, 2023 at 07:26 PM Report Share Posted February 14, 2023 at 07:26 PM On 2/14/2023 at 1:20 PM, Guest TAD said: A member filed charges on him two weeks ago following bylaw procedures another member has filed more charges this week for a different reason also following bylaw procedure. My question is would more than one charge be an automatic dismissal? The answer to this question relies upon the interpretation of your organization's customized rules regarding disciplinary procedures. It will be up to your organization to interpret its own rules on this matter. Since I have not seen the rules in question, I do not have the slightest idea what the proper interpretation should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted February 14, 2023 at 07:39 PM Report Share Posted February 14, 2023 at 07:39 PM On 2/14/2023 at 2:20 PM, Guest TAD said: A member filed charges on him two weeks ago following bylaw procedures another member has filed more charges this week for a different reason also following bylaw procedure. My question is would more than one charge be an automatic dismissal? I don't see why it would dismiss anything, but these rules are in your bylaws, so I can't guess what they might do, automatically or otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TAD Posted February 15, 2023 at 03:55 PM Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 at 03:55 PM On 2/14/2023 at 2:39 PM, Gary Novosielski said: I don't see why it would dismiss anything, but these rules are in your bylaws, so I can't guess what they might do, automatically or otherwise. Nothing stated in bylaws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atul Kapur Posted February 15, 2023 at 06:18 PM Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 at 06:18 PM (edited) It's got to be either one or the other. You tell us that the charges were filed "following bylaw procedures" - so there must be some procedures in there - but then say "Nothing stated in bylaws." But it appears evident that your bylaws have something specific about charges and discipline, so you will need to follow them and RONR will be of limited assistance where your bylaws have gaps because discipline in RONR is based in a different framework. If you mean that the bylaws say nothing about automatic dismissal if multiple charges laid, then RONR does not say anything close to that, either, so there is then nothing anywhe applicable that would result in automatic dismissal. Edited February 15, 2023 at 06:23 PM by Atul Kapur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TAD Posted February 15, 2023 at 08:37 PM Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 at 08:37 PM On 2/15/2023 at 1:18 PM, Atul Kapur said: It's got to be either one or the other. You tell us that the charges were filed "following bylaw procedures" - so there must be some procedures in there - but then say "Nothing stated in bylaws." But it appears evident that your bylaws have something specific about charges and discipline, so you will need to follow them and RONR will be of limited assistance where your bylaws have gaps because discipline in RONR is based in a different framework. If you mean that the bylaws say nothing about automatic dismissal if multiple charges laid, then RONR does not say anything close to that, either, so there is then nothing anywhe applicable that would result in automatic dismissal. Sorry I meant there is nothing in bylaws on dismissal for multiple charges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atul Kapur Posted February 16, 2023 at 03:10 AM Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 at 03:10 AM Then the advice in the third paragraph of my response applies On 2/15/2023 at 1:18 PM, Atul Kapur said: If you mean that the bylaws say nothing about automatic dismissal if multiple charges laid, then RONR does not say anything close to that, either, so there is then nothing anywhe applicable that would result in automatic dismissal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted February 17, 2023 at 01:46 AM Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 at 01:46 AM On 2/15/2023 at 3:37 PM, Guest TAD said: Sorry I meant there is nothing in bylaws on dismissal for multiple charges. Well, there's nothing on dismissal for multiple charges in RONR either. So I guess that's not a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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