Guest John M Posted March 19, 2023 at 05:06 PM Report Share Posted March 19, 2023 at 05:06 PM Where 2/3 of the members voting is required for the motion to pass and no negative vote is taken, is the result invalid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted March 19, 2023 at 05:53 PM Report Share Posted March 19, 2023 at 05:53 PM Failure to take the negative vote is a breach of the rules, but the result stands unless someone raises a timely Point of Order (§23) at the time of the breach. This is the so-called YSYL rule: "You snooze, you lose." Whenever there is a substantive violation of the rules, all members have the duty to raise a Point of Order to call it to the attention of the Chair. There are certain continuing breaches for which a Point of Order can be raised at a later time, which are covered in 23:6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Brown Posted March 19, 2023 at 09:22 PM Report Share Posted March 19, 2023 at 09:22 PM On 3/19/2023 at 12:06 PM, Guest John M said: Where 2/3 of the members voting is required for the motion to pass and no negative vote is taken, is the result invalid? I’m not sure we understand exactly what your question is. Can you try rephrasing it? In particular, please let us know whether or not two-thirds of the members present and voting did in fact vote yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted March 19, 2023 at 11:38 PM Report Share Posted March 19, 2023 at 11:38 PM On 3/19/2023 at 5:22 PM, Richard Brown said: I’m not sure we understand exactly what your question is. Can you try rephrasing it? In particular, please let us know whether or not two-thirds of the members present and voting did in fact vote yes. I'm assuming the chair called for those in favor, but never called for those opposed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John M Posted March 20, 2023 at 12:13 AM Report Share Posted March 20, 2023 at 12:13 AM On 3/19/2023 at 5:22 PM, Richard Brown said: I’m not sure we understand exactly what your question is. Can you try rephrasing it? In particular, please let us know whether or not two-thirds of the members present and voting did in fact vote yes. Of the members present, less than 2/3 voted in favor of the motion. No negative vote had been taken. If a negative vote had been taken, the yes votes may have been 2/3 of the members actually voting. This would have been possible if some of the members abstained. What is the effect if any of the negative vote not being taken? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John M Posted March 20, 2023 at 12:14 AM Report Share Posted March 20, 2023 at 12:14 AM Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted March 20, 2023 at 01:39 AM Report Share Posted March 20, 2023 at 01:39 AM (edited) On 3/19/2023 at 7:13 PM, Guest John M said: Of the members present, less than 2/3 voted in favor of the motion. No negative vote had been taken. If a negative vote had been taken, the yes votes may have been 2/3 of the members actually voting. This would have been possible if some of the members abstained. What is the effect if any of the negative vote not being taken? None, at this point. The vote is valid. A Point of Order regarding this matter would have had to have been raised at the time. Edited March 20, 2023 at 01:39 AM by Josh Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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