Guest jwshuff3@yahoo.com Posted December 13, 2023 at 02:58 PM Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 at 02:58 PM As chair of a non profit 501c3 I resigned over an issue. After thinking further about my decision I rescinded my resignation prior to the next scheduled meeting and prior to any acceptance of my resignation. We begin the year with a new slate of officers for 2024. According to our by-laws the new Chair, Vice-Chair, Secretary, and Treasurer were elected. Our Bylaws states that the Immediate past Chair is a member of the Executive committee, according to Roberts Rules,( which we refer to as our guiding rules for order) should I be considered the Immediate past chair? thank you for your time! John Shuff, jwshuff3@yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Katz Posted December 13, 2023 at 03:00 PM Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 at 03:00 PM You are, to my understanding, presently chair. But as of January 1, 2024, you will not be chair, and someone else will be, with no one intervening between the two of you. Seems to me you will be immediate past chair at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest more detail Posted December 13, 2023 at 06:45 PM Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 at 06:45 PM Thank you for your time! I chose to not go to the November meeting where my two letters were discussed and accepted, we do not meet in December. During the November meeting election of the October slate of officers was voted in for January 2024 per the bylaws. They decided at that Nov. meeting to go with my immediate past chair - truth be told, we were having a significant disagreement regarding policy and they wanted me out of the way. Our bylaws don't even call for the Immediate past chair to be elected it is assumed you will move right into that office after your time as Chair. I wanted to make sure there was or was not a Roberts Rule regarding this eventuality(resign and rescind affecting my Immediate past chair position), as I want my seat on the Exec board. Again thank you for your consideration! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Katz Posted December 13, 2023 at 07:44 PM Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 at 07:44 PM On 12/13/2023 at 1:45 PM, Guest more detail said: Our bylaws don't even call for the Immediate past chair to be elected it is assumed you will move right into that office after your time as Chair. Any immediate past chair provision I've seen (most of us here, including myself, recommend against having them) has simply followed the English meaning of the words - in other words, the bylaws IPP is the IPP. Elected an IPP sounds very strange and I do not know how I'd write a bylaw provision to do that. On 12/13/2023 at 1:45 PM, Guest more detail said: I wanted to make sure there was or was not a Roberts Rule regarding this eventuality(resign and rescind affecting my Immediate past chair position), as I want my seat on the Exec board. There is not, as RONR does not discuss this position. It's a matter of bylaws interpretation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted December 13, 2023 at 07:44 PM Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 at 07:44 PM (edited) On 12/13/2023 at 12:45 PM, Guest more detail said: Thank you for your time! I chose to not go to the November meeting where my two letters were discussed and accepted, we do not meet in December. During the November meeting election of the October slate of officers was voted in for January 2024 per the bylaws. They decided at that Nov. meeting to go with my immediate past chair - truth be told, we were having a significant disagreement regarding policy and they wanted me out of the way. Our bylaws don't even call for the Immediate past chair to be elected it is assumed you will move right into that office after your time as Chair. I wanted to make sure there was or was not a Roberts Rule regarding this eventuality(resign and rescind affecting my Immediate past chair position), as I want my seat on the Exec board. Robert's Rules of Order does not address the position of "Immediate Past President" at all. The simple dictionary definition of the words, however, would suggest the Immediate Past President is, by definition, the person who was President immediately prior to the current President. Period. Unless, of course, something in the organization's bylaws provide otherwise. I would personally advise that the organization amend the bylaws to remove the position of Immediate Past President altogether, because my experience that having such a position causes nothing but problems. Unless and until the organization does so, however, it looks like they're stuck with you. Edited December 13, 2023 at 07:44 PM by Josh Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Shuff Posted January 3, 2024 at 12:41 PM Report Share Posted January 3, 2024 at 12:41 PM Thank you for your help! Have another organizational question that I hope you could help with: What are the primary duties of an Exec. Committee per Roberts Rules? Our bylaws are vague on the topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Katz Posted January 3, 2024 at 12:46 PM Report Share Posted January 3, 2024 at 12:46 PM Please post this one as a new topic, for the ease of future users of the site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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