Good of the Order Question

[Guest Christine]

Hi 

I belong to a Condo Association whose Articles of Association states "items not on the agenda may not be discussed at the Meeting unless all members are present in person or by proxy and none of them object to such discusssion."    What can be brought up and discussed during Good of the Order?   

[Josh Martin]

On 1/5/2024 at 12:22 PM, Guest Christine said:

I belong to a Condo Association whose Articles of Association states "items not on the agenda may not be discussed at the Meeting unless all members are present in person or by proxy and none of them object to such discusssion."    What can be brought up and discussed during Good of the Order?   

Probably not much, "unless all members are present in person or by proxy and none of them object to such discussion."

Good of the Order is generally for making brief observations about the work of the society - thanking people for their work on a project, remarking on upcoming events, and the like - not introducing substantive business. Putting that together with the rule in your bylaws, I certainly do not think motions not listed on the agenda could be introduced under Good of the Order.

While RONR notes that certain societies have a practice of placing "motions or resolutions relating to formal disciplinary procedures for offenses outside a meeting (63) at this point," I do not know that your society has such a practice, and even if it did, it seems clear from the cited rule in your bylaws that such matters could be considered only if listed on the agenda or if "all members are present in person or by proxy and none of them object to such discussion."

"Good of the Order, General Good and Welfare, or Open Forum. This heading, included by some types of societies in their order of business, refers to the general welfare of the organization, and may vary in character. Under this heading (in contrast to the general parliamentary rule that allows discussion only with reference to a pending motion), members who obtain the floor commonly are permitted to offer informal observations regarding the work of the organization, the public reputation of the society or its membership, or the like. Certain types of announcements may tend to fall here. Although the Good of the Order often involves no business or motions, the practice of some organizations would place motions or resolutions relating to formal disciplinary procedures for offenses outside a meeting (63) at this point. In some organizations, the program (see below) is looked upon as a part of the Good of the Order." RONR (12th ed.) 41:34

Edited January 5, 2024 at 06:29 PM by Josh Martin

[Rob Elsman]

I agree with Mr. Martin's observations.

Although I thoroughly understand the intent to prevent a temporary minority from blindsiding members with major decisions that have far-reaching consequences, the limitation can also prevent members from transacting urgent business except by unanimous consent. In such situations, the limitation creates a "tyranny of the minority" that may expose the association to the danger of serious harm or the loss of important opportunities.

[Guest Christine]

Thank you for the responses - very helpful.

 

 

[Atul Kapur]

Please clarify whether "Good of the Order" is specifically listed as an item on your meeting agenda.