Guest George Mervosh Posted March 17, 2010 at 02:36 PM Report Posted March 17, 2010 at 02:36 PM Yes to both."
Guest Chris H Posted March 17, 2010 at 02:42 PM Report Posted March 17, 2010 at 02:42 PM The only limitation to the person who makes the motion is that he can't speak against it in debate. However, I don't see why the motion maker couldn't in debate state that they are on the fence about the motion and speak to the pros and cons of adopting "
David A Foulkes Posted March 17, 2010 at 03:11 PM Report Posted March 17, 2010 at 03:11 PM Although mentioning "cons" might be construed as speaking against. Just a thought...."
Guest Lori Posted March 17, 2010 at 03:13 PM Report Posted March 17, 2010 at 03:13 PM During the process of debate, information and opinions may come forward that would cause the mover of the motion to reconsider his own support for his own motion. He may chose to vote against it as a result. Another alternative, if he sees that there is"
Guest H.Wm.Mountcastle Posted March 17, 2010 at 03:14 PM Report Posted March 17, 2010 at 03:14 PM >>Although mentioning "cons" might be construed as speaking against.<< Might be? :)"
David A Foulkes Posted March 17, 2010 at 03:17 PM Report Posted March 17, 2010 at 03:17 PM I was trying to be flexible. Most times when I take a hard stance, I get into trouble with a certain other fellow who employs the smiley face in his replies. :)"
Guest Chris H Posted March 17, 2010 at 03:32 PM Report Posted March 17, 2010 at 03:32 PM I think the circumstances would factor into whether mentioning "cons" would constitute speaking against the motion. If the person making the motion is actually in support of it then yes mentioning "cons" would be speaking against it. "
David A Foulkes Posted March 17, 2010 at 07:22 PM Report Posted March 17, 2010 at 07:22 PM As an alternative, you might enlist the aid of another member to "argue" the cons. But I'd venture to say if (even in your own mind) your motion still contains "cons", you need to think it through a little more to "perfect" "
Guest George Mervosh Posted March 17, 2010 at 07:30 PM Report Posted March 17, 2010 at 07:30 PM I wonder why we just can't answer the question, yes, without all the hubub that always follows and has nothing to do with the actual question, which pertains to Voting."
Guest Gary c Tesser Posted March 18, 2010 at 03:10 AM Report Posted March 18, 2010 at 03:10 AM Because the question sparked an interesting side discussion, George, and the regulars aren't even approaching getting away with naughtiness. ("Irrelevance" might be harder to dodge. I wanted to chime in on this side discussion, but I'l"
Guest George Mervosh Posted March 18, 2010 at 12:22 PM Report Posted March 18, 2010 at 12:22 PM Hey discuss away, but this question's side discussion always devolves quickly into varying viewpoints and mumbo jumbo about postponing indefinitely, and "your own motion", blah blah blah, all of which don't answer the poor guy's initial question"
Guest Robert B. Fish Posted March 18, 2010 at 12:30 PM Report Posted March 18, 2010 at 12:30 PM At the risk of repeating the answer to the original post: Yes, you can vote against a motion you made but you cannot speak against it. Yes, you can vote against a motion you seconded and you may also speak against it. Seconding a motion"
Guest Gary c Tesser Posted March 19, 2010 at 03:43 AM Report Posted March 19, 2010 at 03:43 AM Thanks George, but the inspired vigorous rant will wait, as the day's events have bummed me. In outline: a debater will often put forward opposing views, and then rebut them. Goes back to Thucidides, off the top of my head."
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