Guest Chris H Posted May 15, 2010 at 03:50 PM Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 at 03:50 PM The most current count is what would apply. So 30-16 would mean the amendment would fail since 2/3 was not reached. However, since there was a difference between the motion passing (the first time) and failing (the second time) I would have counted for " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rob Elsman Posted May 15, 2010 at 03:51 PM Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 at 03:51 PM Since this is a hypothetical situation, why not just follow the correct procedures for taking a vote and verifying it?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rob Elsman Posted May 15, 2010 at 03:53 PM Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 at 03:53 PM "The most current count is what would apply." And from what page in RONR did you glean this?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chris H Posted May 15, 2010 at 03:59 PM Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 at 03:59 PM Common sense. If the first vote was 30-14 and the second was 30-16 why would I accept the first vote when the second one is more currrent?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Trina Posted May 15, 2010 at 03:59 PM Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 at 03:59 PM > Since this is a hypothetical situation, why not just follow the correct procedures for taking a vote and verifying it? < It's hypothetical only in the sense that (fortunately) the change in count didn't affect the outcome in our case. How" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rob Elsman Posted May 15, 2010 at 04:04 PM Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 at 04:04 PM The rule is, I think, that the same method of voting as used previously is not used to verify a vote. In this case, it was improper for the chair to verify the result by taking another count by show of hands." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rob Elsman Posted May 15, 2010 at 04:07 PM Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 at 04:07 PM Now you know why proper parliamentary procedure should be familiar to all *before* the vote is taken. As it is, what has happened is a big, divisive, contentious mess." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John M. Posted May 16, 2010 at 04:02 AM Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 at 04:02 AM The chair should have taken a counted rising vote. A show of hands vote is not advisable for such large assemblies. It's generally used in small boards or committees, or other assemblies of comparable size. However, although the procedure was slo" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Trina Posted May 17, 2010 at 12:30 PM Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 at 12:30 PM Thanks to all who responded. > The chair should have taken a counted rising vote. A show of hands vote is not advisable for such large assemblies. It's generally used in small boards or committees, or other assemblies of comparable size. <<" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John M. Posted May 17, 2010 at 03:43 PM Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 at 03:43 PM >>On the other hand, RONR p. 47 ll. 20-25 gives an example of a counted show of hands with a total of 62 votes being counted. Is this too large, in practice, despite the example in RONR?<< The example in RONR is for "a rising vot" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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