Guest H.Wm.Mountcastle Posted May 18, 2010 at 07:04 PM Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 at 07:04 PM That's up to the (real) members. They can invite or exclude him as they wish. And anyone else. But if he's not a member he has no right to attend, executive session or not." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kim Goldsworthy Posted May 18, 2010 at 08:13 PM Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 at 08:13 PM Ron, >>former board chairman<< >>no longer a board member<< . . . >>When the board enters an executive session, does the honorary non-voting member stay or leave the room?<< kg: "Leave the " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chris H Posted May 18, 2010 at 08:39 PM Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 at 08:39 PM I probably don't know what is good for me but I must disagree with Mr. Mountcastle and Mr. Goldsworthy (which I very rarely do). RONR p. 447 says, "Rights carried with the honor include the right to attend meetings and to speak,". That seems t" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Weldon Merritt Posted May 18, 2010 at 09:47 PM Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 at 09:47 PM <<That seems to suggest that the honorary member has a right to attend meetings whether in Executive Session or not.>> I concur, assuming that the "honorary member" really is an honorary member. But unless the bylaws allow f" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest H.Wm.Mountcastle Posted May 18, 2010 at 09:54 PM Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 at 09:54 PM I'm inclined to think Mr. H has it right and I had it wrong. But we usually say that a non-voting member retains all the other rights of membership. If that's the case I'm not sure why an honorary non-voting member can't make motions. Or" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chris H Posted May 18, 2010 at 10:04 PM Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 at 10:04 PM My guess is that the organization decided to have honorary members without really understanding or fleshing out what the honorary member can and cannot do (besides being non-voting) and that is why Ron would need to refer to RONR pp. 570-573 to answer you" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chris H Posted May 18, 2010 at 10:24 PM Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 at 10:24 PM ...and continuing the sentence on p. 447 the honorary member doesn't have the right to vote or make motions unless the person already is a member of the body or the bylaws grants full membership rights to the honorary member." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest H.Wm.Mountcastle Posted May 18, 2010 at 10:29 PM Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 at 10:29 PM >>or the bylaws grants full membership rights to the honorary member<< But the wrinkle is that, in this instance, there's not just an "honorary member" but a "non-voting honorary member". And the (perhaps rhetorica" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ron Posted May 19, 2010 at 11:50 AM Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 at 11:50 AM I agree that this organization probably didn't know what it was doing Now THAT statement is undoubtedly true! I've now found an updated set of bylaws, and the wording has changed: the immediate past board chair is an "ex-officio" me" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chris H Posted May 19, 2010 at 12:13 PM Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 at 12:13 PM Totally. Provided that there is no qualifications an ex officio member has all of the rights of a member (RONR pp. 466-467). So the answer to your original question is yes he can attend the Executive Session, he can make motions, he can speak in debate," Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest H.Wm.Mountcastle Posted May 19, 2010 at 12:20 PM Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 at 12:20 PM See FAQ #2, elsewhere on this site for more on ex-officio positions. And note that even if the chair is removed from office for malfeasance, he'll still be the immediate past chair and, therefore, he'll still be on the board." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Trina Posted May 19, 2010 at 12:25 PM Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 at 12:25 PM > the immediate past board chair is an "ex-officio" member of the board < And is the former chair (whom you mentioned as an honorary member in your original past) actually the IMMEDIATE past board chair?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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