paulmcclintock Posted June 8, 2010 at 01:38 AM Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 at 01:38 AM RONR indicates the start and end times of the meeting are to be recorded. Does this imply the same for a recess, or is there something explicit on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Goldsworthy Posted June 8, 2010 at 02:39 AM Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 at 02:39 AM Page 66 warns that such a motion (Recess) can be an Incidental Main Motion besides being a Privileged Motion.If it is a IMM, then you must include it, since all main motions are to be included in the minutes.All MMs get the exact wording, therefore, times would be included, I should hope.Page 453 in #7 says that you are to "allude to" recess indirectly.I don't know what official language to use to "allude to" recess.But I think ultimately that the start/end times is a variable, a choice, not fixed by common parliamentary law.E.g., "After a short recess ..." should be sufficient. I think it would be overkill to say, "After a recess from 10:11 to 10:29 ...".The difference between the two is, really, no difference at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted June 8, 2010 at 09:18 AM Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 at 09:18 AM Page 66 warns that such a motion (Recess) can be an Incidental Main Motion besides being a Privileged Motion.If it is a IMM, then you must include it, since all main motions are to be included in the minutes.All MMs get the exact wording, therefore, times would be included, I should hope.Page 453 in #7 says that you are to "allude to" recess indirectly.I don't know what official language to use to "allude to" recess.But I think ultimately that the start/end times is a variable, a choice, not fixed by common parliamentary law.E.g., "After a short recess ..." should be sufficient. I think it would be overkill to say, "After a recess from 10:11 to 10:29 ...".The difference between the two is, really, no difference at all.I agree (I think). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulmcclintock Posted June 8, 2010 at 10:33 AM Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 at 10:33 AM Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted June 8, 2010 at 12:41 PM Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 at 12:41 PM Kim - Sometimes, "yes", is good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted June 8, 2010 at 01:25 PM Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 at 01:25 PM Kim - Sometimes, "yes", is good enough.Except when the answer is "no". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Goldsworthy Posted June 8, 2010 at 02:39 PM Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 at 02:39 PM Sometimes, "yes", is good enough.But not as much fun.I've yet to read a novel where the opening sentence on page one was, "The butler did it. The End. The rest is fluff and distraction."And The Book's tacit answers must sometimes must be teased out. It must be mined like gold - the good stuff is embedded in ore, and must be smelted and/or crushed to pick out the metal from the dross.*****Like that old joke from Laugh In:Dick: "... and I had a heck of time getting milk from that alligator."Dan: "But alligators don't give milk."Dick: "I'll say they don't give milk! You've got to fight for every drop!" ***** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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