JimmyB Posted June 19, 2010 at 02:39 AM Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 at 02:39 AM I just attended a union contract meeting where the Pledge wasn't said at all during the meeting. Does this make the meeting null-and-void? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted June 19, 2010 at 02:42 AM Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 at 02:42 AM I just attended a union contract meeting where the Pledge wasn't said at all during the meeting. Does this make the meeting null-and-void?No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Harrison Posted June 19, 2010 at 03:13 AM Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 at 03:13 AM I just attended a union contract meeting where the Pledge wasn't said at all during the meeting. Does this make the meeting null-and-void?No.And the reason for that is RONR applies irregardless to the nation where the meeting is held so saying a meeting is null and void because the Pledge wasn't recited would be absurd if the organization in question was located in Paris or London, or Madrid, or Baghdad, or anywhere else outside of the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmtcastle Posted June 19, 2010 at 03:43 AM Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 at 03:43 AM And the reason for that is RONR applies irregardless to the nation where the meeting is held so saying a meeting is null and void because the Pledge wasn't recited would be absurd if the organization in question was located in Paris or London, or Madrid, or Baghdad, or anywhere else outside of the US.No, that's not the reason.It's equally absurd in the U.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trina Posted June 19, 2010 at 03:46 AM Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 at 03:46 AM And the reason for that is RONR applies irregardless to the nation where the meeting is held so saying a meeting is null and void because the Pledge wasn't recited would be absurd if the organization in question was located in Paris or London, or Madrid, or Baghdad, or anywhere else outside of the US.And it would be pretty darn absurd inside of the US too.The lack of requirement to recite the pledge of allegiance is no more noteworthy in Paris than it is in Chicago.Such a requirement simply isn't part of the rules of parliamentary procedure in RONR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted June 19, 2010 at 03:57 AM Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 at 03:57 AM I always found it dilatory to pledge allegiance to the same thing for a second time. What does that say about your original pledge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Harrison Posted June 19, 2010 at 04:19 AM Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 at 04:19 AM I think you all are missing my point that it would be absurd for such a rule to be in RONR in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted June 19, 2010 at 04:21 AM Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 at 04:21 AM I think you all are missing my point that it would be absurd for such a rule to be in RONR in the first place.Nobody's missing the point. It's just such an obvious point that everyone's drifting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmtcastle Posted June 19, 2010 at 04:24 AM Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 at 04:24 AM I think you all are missing my point that it would be absurd for such a rule to be in RONR in the first place.But not for the reason you gave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted June 19, 2010 at 04:27 AM Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 at 04:27 AM I think you all are missing my point that it would be absurd for such a rule to be in RONR in the first place.You're aware that the Pledge is mentioned on page 349, though right? To make it a rule, and furthermore a continuing breach to omit it, would be a laughable thought; you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted June 19, 2010 at 10:10 AM Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 at 10:10 AM Any organization may adopt a rule to include certain opening ceremonies in its prescribed order of business, which ceremonies may include reciting of the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag (RONR, 10th ed., p. 349). An assembly's failure to follow its prescribed order of business is a breach of its rules, but such a breach (in this instance, failure to recite the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag), although no laughing matter, will not nullify the meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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