Qustion About The Pledge of Allegiance

[JimmyB]

I just attended a union contract meeting where the Pledge wasn't said at all during the meeting. Does this make the meeting null-and-void?

[Tim Wynn]

I just attended a union contract meeting where the Pledge wasn't said at all during the meeting. Does this make the meeting null-and-void?

No.

[Chris Harrison]

I just attended a union contract meeting where the Pledge wasn't said at all during the meeting. Does this make the meeting null-and-void?

No.

And the reason for that is RONR applies irregardless to the nation where the meeting is held so saying a meeting is null and void because the Pledge wasn't recited would be absurd if the organization in question was located in Paris or London, or Madrid, or Baghdad, or anywhere else outside of the US.

[hmtcastle]

And the reason for that is RONR applies irregardless to the nation where the meeting is held so saying a meeting is null and void because the Pledge wasn't recited would be absurd if the organization in question was located in Paris or London, or Madrid, or Baghdad, or anywhere else outside of the US.

No, that's not the reason.

It's equally absurd in the U.S.

[Trina]

And the reason for that is RONR applies irregardless to the nation where the meeting is held so saying a meeting is null and void because the Pledge wasn't recited would be absurd if the organization in question was located in Paris or London, or Madrid, or Baghdad, or anywhere else outside of the US.

And it would be pretty darn absurd inside of the US too.

The lack of requirement to recite the pledge of allegiance is no more noteworthy in Paris than it is in Chicago.

Such a requirement simply isn't part of the rules of parliamentary procedure in RONR.

[Tim Wynn]

I always found it dilatory to pledge allegiance to the same thing for a second time. What does that say about your original pledge?

[Chris Harrison]

I think you all are missing my point that it would be absurd for such a rule to be in RONR in the first place.

[Tim Wynn]

I think you all are missing my point that it would be absurd for such a rule to be in RONR in the first place.

Nobody's missing the point. It's just such an obvious point that everyone's drifting.

[hmtcastle]

I think you all are missing my point that it would be absurd for such a rule to be in RONR in the first place.

But not for the reason you gave.

[Tim Wynn]

I think you all are missing my point that it would be absurd for such a rule to be in RONR in the first place.

You're aware that the Pledge is mentioned on page 349, though right? To make it a rule, and furthermore a continuing breach to omit it, would be a laughable thought; you're right.

[Dan Honemann]

Any organization may adopt a rule to include certain opening ceremonies in its prescribed order of business, which ceremonies may include reciting of the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag (RONR, 10th ed., p. 349).

An assembly's failure to follow its prescribed order of business is a breach of its rules, but such a breach (in this instance, failure to recite the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag), although no laughing matter, will not nullify the meeting.