Guest Pierre Posted July 25, 2010 at 08:59 PM Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 at 08:59 PM The agenda called for the election of officers for the upcoming year. A board member moved to retain the current officers for the upcoming year. This motion received a second. Another member objected to the motion stating tha the motion was out of order. The chair ruled that the objection had no merit and called for the previous question. The motion passed 3-2... Consequently, there had been no call for any nominations nor was there any 2/3rds vote to cease nominations... Your thoughts on this matter? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Goldsworthy Posted July 25, 2010 at 09:11 PM Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 at 09:11 PM The agenda called for the election of officers for the upcoming year.Good. A board member moved to retain the current officers for the upcoming year.Bad. This motion received a second.Bad. Squared. :angry: Another member objected to the motion stating that the motion was out of order.Good. The chair ruled that the objection had no merit and called for the previous question.Bad. The motion passed 3-2.Bad. Consequently, there had been no call for any nominations nor was there any 2/3rds vote to cease nominations.Sad. Your thoughts on this matter?The good, the bad, and the ugly. ("Woo woo woo woo wooooooo - wah wah waaaaaaaah waaaaaaah") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted July 25, 2010 at 09:20 PM Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 at 09:20 PM The agenda called for the election of officers for the upcoming year. A board member moved to retain the current officers for the upcoming year. This motion received a second. Another member objected to the motion stating tha the motion was out of order. The chair ruled that the objection had no merit and called for the previous question. The motion passed 3-2... Consequently, there had been no call for any nominations nor was there any 2/3rds vote to cease nominations... Your thoughts on this matter? Thank you.Not that your bylaws can be interpreted here to help, but isn't there anything in there (your bylaws) that covers elections of officers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pierre Posted July 25, 2010 at 11:35 PM Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 at 11:35 PM Not that your bylaws can be interpreted here to help, but isn't there anything in there (your bylaws) that covers elections of officers?Must dig out the by-laws... the policy states taht the board shall follow "general parlimentary procedures" I will investigate further.PAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Ed Posted July 25, 2010 at 11:53 PM Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 at 11:53 PM Well, unless nominations and/or a ballot vote are required per the by-laws, one could argue that the motion would have the same effect as an "election." That is, a motion to "retain the current Board for another year" close enough to a motion to "elect ____ as President, ____ as Vice President, etc." Not that I am saying that an election should be handled this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted July 28, 2010 at 04:06 PM Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 at 04:06 PM The agenda called for the election of officers for the upcoming year. A board member moved to retain the current officers for the upcoming year. This motion received a second. Another member objected to the motion stating tha the motion was out of order. The chair ruled that the objection had no merit and called for the previous question. The motion passed 3-2... Consequently, there had been no call for any nominations nor was there any 2/3rds vote to cease nominations... Your thoughts on this matter? Thank you.This was highly improper, but unless your Bylaws require a ballot vote, it would not cause a continuing breach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trina Posted July 29, 2010 at 12:20 PM Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 at 12:20 PM The agenda called for the election of officers for the upcoming year. A board member moved to retain the current officers for the upcoming year. This motion received a second. Another member objected to the motion stating tha the motion was out of order. The chair ruled that the objection had no merit and called for the previous question. The motion passed 3-2... Consequently, there had been no call for any nominations nor was there any 2/3rds vote to cease nominations... Your thoughts on this matter? Thank you.This was highly improper, but unless your Bylaws require a ballot vote, it would not cause a continuing breach.This is all assuming, of course, that the board was the proper body to be doing this electing of officers (I'm assuming the board members were previously elected to the board, and were now choosing officers from among their number?).I believe a motion to rescind could be applied to the precedent created by the chair's improper ruling, should the assembly wish to clear that up in a formal way (RONR p. 294 ll. 28-30). That wouldn't change the outcome of the strangely conducted election, though.I should point out that the motion for the previous question requires a two-thirds vote -- RONR p. 192 -- (a 3-2 vote doesn't meet the two-thirds threshold) and is simply a vote to close debate and then move on to a vote on the pending question. If only a single vote was held (the 3-2 vote reported in the original post), and if that vote was interpreted as being a vote on the motion to retain the officers, that was all incorrect. However, if no one challenged it at the time, and if the chair announced the result of the election, it's all water under the bridge now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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