Guest trudi mehrhof Posted August 7, 2010 at 09:03 PM Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 at 09:03 PM Situation with a non profit homeowners board with eight members five of whom have a direct conflict of interest. Statue in NC states- "If a majority of the directors who have no direct or indirect interest in thetransaction vote to authorize, approve, or ratify the transaction, a quorum is present for thepurpose of taking action under this section."The question is can such a vote take place before a quorum of the total Board is present and therefore a meeting has begin since Robert's Rules states, " the chairman should not take the chair until a quorum is present, or there is no prospect of there being a quorum. The only business that can be transacted in the absence of a quorum is to take measures to obtain a quorum, to fix the time to which toadjourn, and to adjourn, or to take a recess." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Harrison Posted August 7, 2010 at 09:43 PM Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 at 09:43 PM Business cannot be validly conducted unless a quorum is present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Goldsworthy Posted August 7, 2010 at 10:26 PM Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 at 10:26 PM Situation with a non profit homeowners board with eight members five of whom have a direct conflict of interest.Statute in NC states - "If a majority of the directors who have no direct or indirect interest in thetransaction vote to authorize, approve, or ratify the transaction, a quorum is present for thepurpose of taking action under this section."The question is, can such a vote take place before a quorum of the total Board is present and therefore a meeting has begun, since Robert's Rules states, "the chairman should not take the chair until a quorum is present, or there is no prospect of there being a quorum. The only business that can be transacted in the absence of a quorum is to take measures to obtain a quorum, to fix the time to which to adjourn, and to adjourn, or to take a recess."Are you asking a question about Robert's Rules of Order? Or are you asking a question about compliance with a state law which allows action without a (non-conflicting) quorum being present?Your cited state law is not consistent with Robert's Rules of Order, since your law allows something, under a very specific circumstance, which is not EVER allowed under the default rules of Robert's Rules of Order. (Namely, taking action on substantive business despite no quorum being PHYSICALLY present.)This Q&A Forum is not the place to ask, or answer, LEGAL questions.And I think you are indirectly asking, "Will be be in compliance with North Carolina law if we do [X]?"Besides, if you are in compliance with Robert's Rules of Order, but out of compliance with your state's law, then your question will have been moot. So I doubt you are seeking what RONR (Da Capo Press, Tenth Edition, 2000) has to say on the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted August 8, 2010 at 05:59 AM Report Share Posted August 8, 2010 at 05:59 AM Situation with a non profit homeowners board with eight members five of whom have a direct conflict of interest. Statue in NC states- "If a majority of the directors who have no direct or indirect interest in thetransaction vote to authorize, approve, or ratify the transaction, a quorum is present for thepurpose of taking action under this section."The question is can such a vote take place before a quorum of the total Board is present and therefore a meeting has begin since Robert's Rules states, " the chairman should not take the chair until a quorum is present, or there is no prospect of there being a quorum. The only business that can be transacted in the absence of a quorum is to take measures to obtain a quorum, to fix the time to which toadjourn, and to adjourn, or to take a recess."Your question has more to do with the laws of North Carolina than the rules under RONR. Applicable procedural laws take precedence over RONR. You will need to consult a lawyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest trudi mehrhof Posted August 9, 2010 at 11:58 AM Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 at 11:58 AM Your question has more to do with the laws of North Carolina than the rules under RONR. Applicable procedural laws take precedence over RONR. You will need to consult a lawyer.Thanks . 2 out of three replies say the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest trudi mehrhof Posted August 9, 2010 at 12:01 PM Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 at 12:01 PM Are you asking a question about Robert's Rules of Order? Or are you asking a question about compliance with a state law which allows action without a (non-conflicting) quorum being present?Your cited state law is not consistent with Robert's Rules of Order, since your law allows something, under a very specific circumstance, which is not EVER allowed under the default rules of Robert's Rules of Order. (Namely, taking action on substantive business despite no quorum being PHYSICALLY present.)This Q&A Forum is not the place to ask, or answer, LEGAL questions.And I think you are indirectly asking, "Will be be in compliance with North Carolina law if we do [X]?"Besides, if you are in compliance with Robert's Rules of Order, but out of compliance with your state's law, then your question will have been moot. So I doubt you are seeking what RONR (Da Capo Press, Tenth Edition, 2000) has to say on the issue.Thanks. I wasn't sure where to find the answer. Based on the responses it seems we will need to consult an attorney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest trudi mehrhof Posted August 9, 2010 at 12:03 PM Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 at 12:03 PM Business cannot be validly conducted unless a quorum is present.Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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