Motion made with no quorum

[Guest Larry E]

We recently had a meeting where a motion was made but not acted upon. The next day a member raised the issue of a quorum not being present at the time the motion was made. 22 members were present, our quorum is 25. Is the motion still valid? Thanks

[hmtcastle]

We recently had a meeting where a motion was made but not acted upon. The next day a member raised the issue of a quorum not being present at the time the motion was made. 22 members were present, our quorum is 25. Is the motion still valid?

If you can prove that a quorum wasn't present, any action taken can be declared null and void. Raise a point of order at the next meeting.

Needless to say, such matters are much more easily dealt with when they occur, not after the fact.

[Larry Cisar]

We recently had a meeting where a motion was made but not acted upon. The next day a member raised the issue of a quorum not being present at the time the motion was made. 22 members were present, our quorum is 25. Is the motion still valid? Thanks

It wasn't acted on so what is the problem?

[hmtcastle]

It wasn't acted on so what is the problem?

I took that to mean that the motion was adopted but not yet acted on.

But who knows. Perhaps the other Larry knows.

[Guest Larry E]

If you can prove that a quorum wasn't present, any action taken can be declared null and void. Raise a point of order at the next meeting.

Needless to say, such matters are much more easily dealt with when they occur, not after the fact.

Thanks for your reply. You say any action can be declared null and void my question now becomes must it be? If it can be who decides? For clarification I want this motion to remain.

[Guest larry]

It wasn't acted on so what is the problem?

The problem is a member not at the meeting has raised this issue. We're firemen, not parliamentarians.

[Guest larry]

It wasn't acted on so what is the problem?

The motion was introduced so the members could consider it before formal discussion and voting could take place next week.

[Larry Cisar]

The motion was introduced so the members could consider it before formal discussion and voting could take place next week.

People will be able to consider it as the topic is now before them. At the next meeting, when a quorum is present, make the motion. Or does your organization have a special rule about having to wait to the meeting after a motion is introduced before voting on it?

[Tim Wynn]

Or does your organization have a special rule about having to wait to the meeting after a motion is introduced before voting on it?

Since they are admittedly (and probably quite contently) not parliamentarians, I doubt they have too many special rules... and let's hope they don't have this rule.

[Tim Wynn]

The motion was introduced so the members could consider it before formal discussion and voting could take place next week.

This is not proper procedure. Once a main motion is made and seconded, the chair places it before the assembly, and it is then open to debate, after which it should be put to a vote, if not otherwise disposed of.

If notice is required or desired, it should not come in the form of a motion.