Guest Bob McFarland Posted November 1, 2010 at 12:59 PM Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 at 12:59 PM In our private non profit organization nominations are not made from the floor. A slip of paper is passed out and "nominations" and your vote are considered to be one-in-the-same.As a new voting representative, I protested that I did not even know the names or spellings of the names of any candidates / nominees. How could I possibly make an informed vote? My protest was denied and the President stated "Your vote is your nomination. We do them at the same time (on the ballot)".Is this proper? It seems to me that this is unfair, and gives the incumbents a huge advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted November 1, 2010 at 01:02 PM Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 at 01:02 PM No, see RONR, p. 423 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob McFarland Posted November 1, 2010 at 07:08 PM Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 at 07:08 PM No, see RONR, p. 423Is there an online edition? What is on page 423? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob McFarland Posted November 1, 2010 at 07:09 PM Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 at 07:09 PM Thanks. Is there an online edition I can access? What is on p. 423? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Goldsworthy Posted November 1, 2010 at 07:11 PM Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 at 07:11 PM In our private non profit organization nominations are not made from the floor. A slip of paper is passed out and "nominations" and your vote are considered to be one-in-the-same.As a new voting representative, I protested that I did not even know the names or spellings of the names of any candidates / nominees. How could I possibly make an informed vote? My protest was denied and the President stated "Your vote is your nomination. We do them at the same time (on the ballot)".Is this proper? Two answers.1. It is not proper.2. You don't need nominations in order to hold an election. - You can indeed go straight to the voting phase without a nominations phase.(excerpt, page 423)NOMINATIONS BY BALLOT. The object of anominating ballot is to provide the members with an indi-cation of the sentiments of the voting body, which they maytake into account in voting in the election. The value of thenominating ballot is that it shows the preferences withoutelecting anyone. The nominating ballot is conducted in thesame way as an ordinary electing ballot except that every-one receiving a vote is nominated; the tellers’ report, there-fore, does not state the number of votes necessary fornomination. Since each member has the opportunity tonominate on his ballot a candidate for every office, he doesnot have the right then to make nominations from thefloor, unless the assembly by a majority vote authorizes suchnominations.Impropriety of Making the Nominating Ballot the Elect-ing Ballot. Sometimes a motion is made to declare thenominating ballot the electing ballot. Such action negates allthe advantages of a nominating ballot and is, in effect, thesame as having an electing ballot without any nominations.If there is to be only one ballot, it should be the electing bal-lot, with nominations from the floor, or by a nominatingcommittee and from the floor. A nominating ballot cannottake the place of an electing ballot in an organization whosebylaws require elections to be held by ballot.It seems to me that this is unfair, and gives the incumbents a huge advantage.I agree.Change your rule.Take the advice on page 423. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted November 4, 2010 at 06:40 PM Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 at 06:40 PM Is there an online edition I can access?No (not a current one, anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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