Guest Corinne Rivers Posted November 15, 2010 at 03:09 PM Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 at 03:09 PM Is the chair automatically an ex officio member of all committees or must this be specified in the bylaws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted November 15, 2010 at 03:12 PM Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 at 03:12 PM The latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Corinne Rivers Posted November 15, 2010 at 03:20 PM Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 at 03:20 PM it appears that the comment under Article IV ss 28 states that The president is not a member of any committee except by virtue of a special rule, unless he is so appointed by the assembly.would answer the question in the negative. therefore in the absence of the provision in the bylaws, the chair (president) is not automatically a member of every committee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmtcastle Posted November 15, 2010 at 03:22 PM Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 at 03:22 PM it appears that the comment under Article IV ss 28 states that The president is not a member of any committee except by virtue of a special rule, unless he is so appointed by the assembly.would answer the question in the negative. therefore in the absence of the provision in the bylaws, the chair (president) is not automatically a member of every committeeWhich is what Mr. Mervosh, in his pithy way, said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted November 15, 2010 at 06:48 PM Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 at 06:48 PM Is the chair automatically an ex officio member of all committees or must this be specified in the bylaws?it appears that the comment under Article IV ss 28 states that The president is not a member of any committee except by virtue of a special rule, unless he is so appointed by the assembly.would answer the question in the negative. therefore in the absence of the provision in the bylaws, the chair (president) is not automatically a member of every committeeNow the questioners are answering their own questions. That's great, I think I'll take the afternoon off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted November 15, 2010 at 06:56 PM Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 at 06:56 PM it appears that the comment under Article IV ss 28 states that The president is not a member of any committee except by virtue of a special rule, unless he is so appointed by the assembly.would answer the question in the negative. therefore in the absence of the provision in the bylaws, the chair (president) is not automatically a member of every committeeOh, did Mr. Mervosh get in the way of you answering your own question? He often jumps in front like that.I don't follow your reference, but you'll find one in RONR(10th ed.), p. 562, l. 16-23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted November 15, 2010 at 06:58 PM Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 at 06:58 PM That's great, I think I'll take the afternoon off.Don't forget your book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Goldsworthy Posted November 15, 2010 at 07:06 PM Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 at 07:06 PM That's great, I think I'll take the afternoon off."We get up at twelve, and start to work at one,Take an hour for lunch, and then at two, we're done!Jolly good fun!"- Munchkins of Emerald City(excerpt from the song, "The Merry Old Land of Oz" from the 1939 film The Wizard of Oz) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted November 15, 2010 at 07:20 PM Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 at 07:20 PM "We get up at twelve, and start to work at one,Take an hour for lunch, and then at two, we're done!Jolly good fun!"- Munchkins of Emerald City(excerpt from the song, "The Merry Old Land of Oz" from the 1939 film The Wizard of Oz)Director Victor Fleming's second-highest-grossing movie of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmtcastle Posted November 15, 2010 at 07:43 PM Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 at 07:43 PM Munchkins of Emerald CityI don't believe the citizens of the Emerald City were Munchkins.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEUTE0K3B3o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted November 15, 2010 at 08:45 PM Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 at 08:45 PM it appears that the comment under Article IV ss 28 states that The president is not a member of any committee except by virtue of a special rule, unless he is so appointed by the assembly.would answer the question in the negative. therefore in the absence of the provision in the bylaws, the chair (president) is not automatically a member of every committeeThat citation is not applicable to the 10th edition. Article IV sounds like it's the 1915 no-longer-copyrighted edition of ROR, which is pretty badly out of date, and not RONR, which is reasonably new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmtcastle Posted November 15, 2010 at 09:15 PM Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 at 09:15 PM That citation is not applicable to the 10th edition.Though I'm not sure how it's substantially any different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary c Tesser Posted November 16, 2010 at 08:49 AM Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 at 08:49 AM Though I'm not sure how it's substantially any different.Of course it's not. Novosielski is imperfect again.(Note to self, learn to type his first name, it might some day be easier) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted November 16, 2010 at 04:46 PM Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 at 04:46 PM it appears that the comment under Article IV ss 28 states that The president is not a member of any committee except by virtue of a special rule, unless he is so appointed by the assembly.would answer the question in the negative. therefore in the absence of the provision in the bylaws, the chair (president) is not automatically a member of every committeeI don't know what book you're reading, but it's not The Right Book (as it does not use articles as divisions). Your text happens to be correct in this instance, but it would be advisable to get Robert's Rules of Order, Newly Revised, 10th edition.That citation is not applicable to the 10th edition. Article IV sounds like it's the 1915 no-longer-copyrighted edition of ROR, which is pretty badly out of date, and not RONR, which is reasonably new.That was my thought at first, but Article IV in the 4th edition is on Incidental Motions, and Section 28 (which is in Article V) is on Lay on the Table. The cited sentence does appear in the 4th edition, but it's in Article IX, Section 51. I suspect that the text is some third-party knockoff, as such books often use the 4th edition as a starting point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted November 16, 2010 at 08:03 PM Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 at 08:03 PM Of course it's not. Novosielski is imperfect again.(Note to self, learn to type his first name, it might some day be easier)Nonsense. The idea was to draw appropriate attention to the Right Book. If that's imperfect, I don't wanna be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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