Guest Wanda Posted December 7, 2010 at 04:09 AM Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 at 04:09 AM A board member made a motion that was seconded, but after some discussion at which point the board was ready for the vote, the seconder withdrew her second. The implication was that she'd withdrawn her second earlier i.e., just after she made it, but no one had heard her. It appeared taht she decided to withdraw it because it was apparent that no one was in favour of the motion. Shouldn't we have voted anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Harrison Posted December 7, 2010 at 04:25 AM Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 at 04:25 AM A board member made a motion that was seconded, but after some discussion at which point the board was ready for the vote, the seconder withdrew her second. The implication was that she'd withdrawn her second earlier i.e., just after she made it, but no one had heard her. It appeared taht she decided to withdraw it because it was apparent that no one was in favour of the motion. Shouldn't we have voted anyway?Yes. With one exception a member cannot withdraw a second. The purpose for a second is to aid the Chair in knowing that more than one member wish the motion considered. So that she didn't think that anyone else was in favor of the motion should not have influenced her if she understood the second's purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Ed Posted December 7, 2010 at 04:31 AM Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 at 04:31 AM And if the Board is comprised of less than 13 members, there is no requirement to have a seconder to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted December 7, 2010 at 04:38 AM Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 at 04:38 AM A board member made a motion that was seconded, but after some discussion at which point the board was ready for the vote, the seconder withdrew her second. The implication was that she'd withdrawn her second earlier i.e., just after she made it, but no one had heard her. It appeared taht she decided to withdraw it because it was apparent that no one was in favour of the motion. Shouldn't we have voted anyway?Yes, you should have voted. After debate has begun, the lack of a second becomes immaterial. See RONR(10th ed.), p. 35, l. 29-32. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Harrison Posted December 7, 2010 at 04:45 AM Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 at 04:45 AM And if the Board is comprised of less than 13 members, there is no requirement to have a seconder to begin with.Well that is not exactly correct. It is "about a dozen members present". The Small Board rules are based on members present rather than the total number of Board members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted December 7, 2010 at 06:02 AM Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 at 06:02 AM Well that is not exactly correct. It is "about a dozen members present". The Small Board rules are based on members present rather than the total number of Board members. Not completely: The chairman can speak in discussion without rising or leaving the chair, and, subject to rule or custom within the particular board (which should be followed regardless of how many members are present), he usually can make motions and usually votes on all questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wanda Posted December 7, 2010 at 08:32 AM Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 at 08:32 AM Simply: Thanks(ok, not so simple: why does this site require you to continually confirm those mindless codes? I don't mind doing it once or twice, but even in the midst of posting, one is requested to confirm again and again. I MOVE to reconfigure the system so that one is required to confirm a code one single time upon accessing the site. On a serious note,, this site is a great help) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted December 7, 2010 at 08:45 AM Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 at 08:45 AM ok, not so simple: why does this site require you to continually confirm those mindless codes?To make sure you are a real person and not a spam bot.If you intend on using this site regularly, you should register an account, and then you won't have that problem anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmtcastle Posted December 7, 2010 at 11:52 AM Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 at 11:52 AM Well that is not exactly correct. It is "about a dozen members present".Well, since we're being exactly correct, that is not exactly correct either. The guideline is, "not more than about a dozen members present". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Harrison Posted December 7, 2010 at 02:11 PM Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 at 02:11 PM Well, since we're being exactly correct, that is not exactly correct either. The guideline is, "not more than about a dozen members present".I was referring to the number 13 given which is being more specific that RONR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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