Guest Chris Posted December 13, 2010 at 10:20 PM Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 at 10:20 PM Does Roberts Rules superceed a local's by-laws. For example if the by laws say election nominations are done in a open forum, can you do right in's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert B Fish Posted December 13, 2010 at 10:24 PM Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 at 10:24 PM Does Roberts Rules superceed a local's by-laws. For example if the by laws say election nominations are done in a open forum, can you do right in's?No. In fact, just the opposite is the case. Most likely, your bylaws contain a statement like: Article # Parliamentary Authority"The rules contained in the current edition of Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised shall govern the Society in all cases to which they are applicable and in which they are not inconsistent with these bylaws and any special rules of order the Society may adopt."As you can see, the statement recommended by RONR says that your RONR only applies to those cases where it is 1) applicable and 2) non inconsistent with your bylaws and special rules of order.-Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmtcastle Posted December 13, 2010 at 10:26 PM Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 at 10:26 PM For example if the by laws say election nominations are done in a open forum, can you do right in's?I don't see what an open forum has to do with write-in votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted December 14, 2010 at 12:06 AM Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 at 12:06 AM Does Roberts Rules superceed a local's by-laws.No, the local Bylaws supersede RONR.For example if the by laws say election nominations are done in a open forum, can you do right in's?I don't believe these rules are in conflict. A write-in is not a nomination, so a rule regarding nominations would not affect the ability to cast write-in votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted December 14, 2010 at 10:58 PM Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 at 10:58 PM Does Roberts Rules superceed a local's by-laws. For example if the by laws say election nominations are done in a open forum, can you do right in's?No, your by-laws supersede RONR. But that's got nothing to do with your question.You're confusing nominations with votes. If your bylaws say that nominations are done in open forum, that's fine. In fact, that's exactly the way RONR suggests they be done. Once you've got a list of nominees, the nomination process is over.Then you proceed to hold an election, presumably by ballot vote (or there's no place to "write"). And in the voting process, write-in votes are perfectly fine. You are not limited to only those persons nominated. You can vote for anyone eligible, whether nominated or not.So there's no conflict between your bylaws and RONR, and there's no conflict between nominating someone and voting for someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted December 14, 2010 at 11:08 PM Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 at 11:08 PM If your bylaws say that nominations are done in open forum, that's fine. In fact, that's exactly the way RONR suggests they be done.RONR does not suggest that nominations be done in any particular way. If the assembly has no rule or custom on the subject, it is free to choose any of the methods of nomination detailed in RONR, 10th ed., pgs. 417-424. (RONR, 10th ed., pg. 417, lines 8-11)I also am not sure why you are so certain you know what the poster means by "open forum," as the meaning of this phrase in RONR has nothing to do with nominations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chris Posted December 19, 2010 at 04:51 PM Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 at 04:51 PM No, your by-laws supersede RONR. But that's got nothing to do with your question.You're confusing nominations with votes. If your bylaws say that nominations are done in open forum, that's fine. In fact, that's exactly the way RONR suggests they be done. Once you've got a list of nominees, the nomination process is over.Then you proceed to hold an election, presumably by ballot vote (or there's no place to "write"). And in the voting process, write-in votes are perfectly fine. You are not limited to only those persons nominated. You can vote for anyone eligible, whether nominated or not.So there's no conflict between your bylaws and RONR, and there's no conflict between nominating someone and voting for someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chris Posted December 19, 2010 at 04:59 PM Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 at 04:59 PM Ok, with that being said, does a write in candidate need to do a declaration of intent and advise all parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted December 19, 2010 at 05:06 PM Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 at 05:06 PM Ok, with that being said, does a write in candidate need to do a declaration of intent and advise all parties.No. A write-in candidate need not even be aware that he is being written in, until the votes are counted of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Elsman Posted December 19, 2010 at 05:24 PM Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 at 05:24 PM No. A write-in candidate need not even be aware that he is being written in, until the votes are counted of course.That's right. In fact, a person may actively oppose his own election and still be written in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted December 19, 2010 at 05:28 PM Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 at 05:28 PM That's right. In fact, a person may actively oppose his own election and still be written in.He may even, under oath, deny his very existence! Well, okay, maybe not that....But I fully expect someone to say, "No rule in RONR prohibits it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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