Guest Jill Posted December 16, 2010 at 07:59 PM Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 at 07:59 PM I am the president of a school group. There are only 4 people on our board and one of them has decided to resign. We hold elections in the fall. Do I have the authority to appoint someone to that position until time for the elections? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmtcastle Posted December 16, 2010 at 08:09 PM Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 at 08:09 PM Do I have the authority to appoint someone to that position until time for the elections?Only if your bylaws give you that authority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jill Posted December 16, 2010 at 08:11 PM Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 at 08:11 PM Unfortunately we don't have any by laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tctheatc Posted December 16, 2010 at 08:15 PM Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 at 08:15 PM Well, they make an excellent Christmas gift!! Just sayin'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmtcastle Posted December 16, 2010 at 08:16 PM Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 at 08:16 PM Unfortunately we don't have any by laws.Then how do you know you have a four-person board? Where is the rule that says that? Maybe three is okay.Or the rule that says your elections are in the fall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jill Posted December 16, 2010 at 08:27 PM Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 at 08:27 PM The four of us took over from the previous board that was falling apart and the only thing I could find was that we shall be governed by RROO. We have kinda been winging it ever since Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted December 16, 2010 at 08:35 PM Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 at 08:35 PM The four of us took over from the previous board that was falling apart and the only thing I could find was that we shall be governed by RROO. We have kinda been winging it ever sinceThen assume you can't, because RONR doesn't give you the authority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmtcastle Posted December 16, 2010 at 08:42 PM Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 at 08:42 PM The four of us took over from the previous board that was falling apart and the only thing I could find was that we shall be governed by RROO. We have kinda been winging it ever sinceThe secretary should have the minutes book, the official record of the business that was transacted at each meeting since your association was founded. If there is no minutes book (and no secretary?) you might want to start from scratch and pretend that there is no association at all yet, just a group of people that, up until now, have been getting along without written rules. As long as there's no money in the treasury, you should be fine.To be on the safe side, you could give the "new" organization a different name, perhaps including the words "newly revised". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted December 16, 2010 at 09:41 PM Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 at 09:41 PM Then assume you can't, because RONR doesn't give you the authority.Of course, if they don't have bylaws, in which would be found the article/section adopting RONR as their parliamentary authority, what RONR does or does not allow them to do is sort-a kind-a not as much applicable. In a way. Sort-a. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted December 17, 2010 at 12:36 AM Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 at 12:36 AM I am the president of a school group. There are only 4 people on our board and one of them has decided to resign. We hold elections in the fall. Do I have the authority to appoint someone to that position until time for the elections?Since you don't have Bylaws, you don't have a board, which means you don't have a vacancy, so that solves that problem. Your organization should read RONR, 10th ed., Section 54: Organization of a Permanent Society, and then follow those procedures.Of course, if they don't have bylaws, in which would be found the article/section adopting RONR as their parliamentary authority, what RONR does or does not allow them to do is sort-a kind-a not as much applicable. In a way. Sort-a. An assembly does not need to have Bylaws in order to adopt RONR as its parliamentary authority. Additionally, as RONR is a codification of the common parliamentary law, it is often useful even for assemblies which have not formally adopted RONR as their parliamentary authority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmtcastle Posted December 17, 2010 at 12:40 AM Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 at 12:40 AM Since you don't have Bylaws, you don't have a board, so that solves that problem.An assembly does not need to have Bylaws in order to adopt RONR as its parliamentary authority.I'm not so sure it can't also have a board without bylaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted December 17, 2010 at 12:44 AM Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 at 12:44 AM I'm not so sure it can't also have a board without bylaws.It seems to me that RONR, 10th ed., pg. 465, lines 26-27 is definitive on this matter.Unless you are suggesting that some organizations have some other document which is the equivalent of Bylaws, in which case I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmtcastle Posted December 17, 2010 at 12:59 AM Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 at 12:59 AM It seems to me that RONR, 10th ed., pg. 465, lines 26-27 is definitive on this matter.Unless you are suggesting that some organizations have some other document which is the equivalent of Bylaws, in which case I agree.I'm suggesting that a group of people can function as a voluntary association with a defined membership, officers, and committees (including a board) without written rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted December 17, 2010 at 01:07 AM Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 at 01:07 AM I'm suggesting that a group of people can function as a voluntary association with a defined membership, officers, and committees (including a board) without written rules.Okay, then I disagree. So far as RONR and the common parliamentary law (as it exists today) are concerned, an assembly with no Bylaws (or the equivalent) is in the nature of a mass meeting, temporary society, or a convention not of a permanent society. Such an assembly has only the essential officers required for a deliberative assembly (Chair and Secretary). Such an assembly may establish committees, but not a board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted December 17, 2010 at 01:20 AM Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 at 01:20 AM Since you don't have Bylaws, you don't have a board, which means you don't have a vacancy, so that solves that problem. Umm, how do you know you have a president? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted December 17, 2010 at 01:23 AM Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 at 01:23 AM Umm, how do you know you have a president?They don't have a President either, but they do have a chair. It seems logical that the individual referred to as the "President" is the assembly's chair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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