Voting on a previousld defeated topic

[Guest Dusty]

If a vote on a topic was defeated by a commission at a previous meeting (one month ago)can it be brought back before the commission a month later in the form of a resolution for a vote?

What strategy can be employed to block this second vote.

[hmtcastle]

If a vote on a topic was defeated by a commission at a previous meeting (one month ago)can it be brought back before the commission a month later in the form of a resolution for a vote?

What strategy can be employed to block this second vote.

A defeated motion can be made again ("renewed") at each and every subsequent (regular) meeting. You can't block the making of the motion but you can often dispose of it in a minute or two.

[George Mervosh]

A defeated motion can be made again ("renewed") at each and every subsequent (regular) meeting. You can't block the making of the motion but you can often dispose of it in a minute or two.

If the commission is the same as a committee, the motion will likely have to be reconsidered as renewal is not an option. RONR, p. 318ff, and p. 327 bullet #3

[Guest Dusty]

A defeated motion can be made again ("renewed") at each and every subsequent (regular) meeting. You can't block the making of the motion but you can often dispose of it in a minute or two.

[Guest Dusty]

Please expand on How to dispose of the motion in a minute or two? Thank You!

[tctheatc]

Objecting to the consideration of the question might work. (RONR p 258)

[hmtcastle]

Please expand on How to dispose of the motion in a minute or two?

A minute or two was a bit of an exaggeration. You could adopt a motion to commit or you could move the previous question (see FAQ #11).

[Gary Novosielski]

Please expand on How to dispose of the motion in a minute or two? Thank You!

Well, naturally, you're only going to be able to do that if a large fraction (2/3 or more) of the assembly does not want to deal with the issue. If that's not true, then RONR will protect the rights of a sizable (more than 1/3) minority to debate the issue.

But with 2/3 support:

You can Object to Consideration [RONR p. 258], which must be raised before any debate has begun on the main motion. You do not need to be recognized to raise this objection, but you must do so before someone who is recognized begins to speak in debate. Object to Consideration does not require a second, is undebatable, and requires a two-thirds vote to suppress the main motion. This is probably the quickest way to dispose of a incessantly renewed motion, if 2/3 of the assembly is fed up with it.

If debate has already begun, you can move the Previous Question [RONR p. 189], which can cut off debate and proceed immediately to a vote on the main motion. But "immediately" can't happen until you have the floor; if the maker of the motion exercises his right to speak first, you won't be able to interrupt him. Once you get a chance to move it, and it is seconded, this motion to end debate is, itself, undebatable and requires a 2/3 vote for passage. If it passes, you then immediately vote on the main motion.

You may be advised that it is possible to bottle up an undesirable motion in committee, but this is not correct. If the intent is to suppress consideration of the motion indefinitely, the motion to Refer is not in order, because it denies, by a mere majority vote, the minority's right to be heard. Unless it is moved in a good-faith effort to send the motion to a committee for study, it should be ruled a dilatory tactic. There is a correct motion to use for this case, when it is desired to kill a motion without it ever coming to a direct vote. That is the motion to Postpone Indefinitely [RONR p. 121]. This requires a second, and can be passed by a majority, but it is, therefore, debatable, so it would appear to offer no advantage. You could, however, immediately move the Previous Question, which would suppress debate, but as noted above, that would require a 2/3 vote.