Parlimentarian

[Guest Darryl Hoychick]

Can a Parlimentarian who is officially recognized in the Agenda of a corporation to which he has membership, bring a motion during the meeting in which he is the acting Parlimentarian?

[Robert B Fish]

Can a Parlimentarian who is officially recognized in the Agenda of a corporation to which he has membership, bring a motion during the meeting in which he is the acting Parlimentarian?

The parliamentarian should not make motions, speak in debate or vote unless the vote is by ballot.

-Bob

[E A Lemoine]

That is not to say the parliamentarian cannot make motions, participate in debate, or vote, but it may lead to advice provided to members (outside of meetings) or to the chair (during meetings) to be disregarded. It can be quite difficult for the parliamentarian to properly advise the chair and to observe the meeting to determine whether errors have occurred during the proceedings.

"A member of an assembly who acts as its parliamentarian has the same duty as the presiding officer to maintain a position of impartiality, and therefore does not make motions, participate in debate, or vote on any question except in the case of a ballot vote... If a member feels that he cannot properly forego these rights in order to serve as parliamentarian, he should not accept that position." RONR p. 451, l. 4-13. (emphasis added)

[Kim Goldsworthy]

Can a Parlimentarian who is officially recognized in the Agenda of a corporation to which he has membership, bring a motion during the meeting in which he is the acting Parlimentarian?

Are you asking if the motion cannot be entertained?

The motion CAN be entertained.

Are you asking if the motion is out of order?

The motion WOULD be in order.

Are you asking if the parliamentarian is violating the rule in Robert's Rules of Order?

Yes. -- There is a difference between (a.) asking if the motion is possible; vs. (b.) asking if the parliamentarian is violating a rule.

The motion is not at fault.

The parliamentarian is at fault. -- He is not doing his "job" when he debates, he makes motions, he votes.

If a chair were to brush off a motion made by the parliamentarian, BOTH the chair and the parliamentarian would be at fault, and BOTH should be admonished.

But the motion itself remains as valid and legitimate as if it came from an ordinary rank-and-file member.

(The chair cannot ignore a properly-moved in-order motion. But the parliamentarian is failing at his primary task if he makes motions.)