Guest Tim Posted January 18, 2011 at 01:20 AM Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 at 01:20 AM Do you have to be a board member to be elected to the executive as a Secretary or Treasurer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Elsman Posted January 18, 2011 at 01:21 AM Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 at 01:21 AM Do you have to be a board member to be elected to the executive as a Secretary or Treasurer?No rule in RONR requires it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted January 18, 2011 at 01:51 AM Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 at 01:51 AM Do you have to be a board member to be elected to the executive as a Secretary or Treasurer?Any eligibility requirements for election, if they exist, would have to be contained in your bylaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Elsman Posted January 18, 2011 at 02:00 AM Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 at 02:00 AM Any eligibility requirements for election, if they exist, would have to be contained in your bylaws....eligibility requirements for election..."Eligibility" and "election" come from the same Latin root. Electus -a -um is the fourth principal part of eligere--to choose. Therefore, it is redundant to say something like "eligible for election", like the Book does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted January 18, 2011 at 02:10 AM Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 at 02:10 AM "Eligibility" and "election" come from the same Latin root. Electus -a -um is the fourth principal part of eligere--to choose. Therefore, it is redundant to say something like "eligible for election", like the Book does. Well, I don't think I'm prepared to agree that two words with the same root in Latin are necessarily redundant in English. I think we should refer the matter to the Department of Redundancy Dept., and see what they say.They tell me that in Czech, the words voice and vote are exactly the same word. I see a clear opportunity for redundancy there. Call out the Squad Squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Elsman Posted January 18, 2011 at 02:14 AM Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 at 02:14 AM Well, I don't think I'm prepared to agree that two words with the same root in Latin are necessarily redundant in English. I think we should refer the matter to the Department of Redundancy Dept., and see what they say.They tell me that in Czech, the words voice and vote are exactly the same word. I see a clear opportunity for redundancy there. Call out the Squad Squad.I think "qualified for election" would have been much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted January 18, 2011 at 02:44 AM Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 at 02:44 AM I think "qualified for election" would have been much better.Well, then you get into another area that you may not want to enter. Eligible just means it's okay to vote for them, because they can be elected. And that's as far as RONR wants to go, clearly.But when you start talking about qualified, then you begin to ask whether the Treasurer has to be able to balance a checkbook, whether the Secretary has to be able to read and write, and whether the Chair has to be able to find his Seat with both hands and a search warrant.I don't think the General wanted to start down that path. Trusting as he did in democracy, he left the question of qualifications up to the voter, and wrote (sparingly) about eligibility alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Elsman Posted January 18, 2011 at 02:50 AM Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 at 02:50 AM Well, then you get into another area that you may not want to enter. Eligible just means it's okay to vote for them, because they can be elected. And that's as far as RONR wants to go, clearly.But when you start talking about qualified, then you begin to ask whether the Treasurer has to be able to balance a checkbook, whether the Secretary has to be able to read and write, and whether the Chair has to be able to find his Seat with both hands and a search warrant.I don't think the General wanted to start down that path. Trusting as he did in democracy, he left the question of qualifications up to the voter, and wrote (sparingly) about eligibility alone.I have no problem with "eligible". My problem is with "eligible for election". Had the Book just said "eligible", I would have been as satisfied as a goat in a cabbage patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted January 18, 2011 at 02:56 AM Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 at 02:56 AM Well, I don't think I'm prepared to agree that two words with the same root in Latin are necessarily redundant in English. I think we should refer the matter to the Department of Redundancy Dept., and see what they say.They tell me that in Czech, the words voice and vote are exactly the same word. I see a clear opportunity for redundancy there. Call out the Squad Squad.Shoes for industry, George - er, Gary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted January 18, 2011 at 03:04 AM Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 at 03:04 AM I have no problem with "eligible". My problem is with "eligible for election". Had the Book just said "eligible", I would have been as satisfied as a goat in a cabbage patch.Then you'd need: FAQ #21: What do you mean by eligible? Eligible for what? Election? Marriage? Receiving a forward pass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Elsman Posted January 18, 2011 at 03:09 AM Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 at 03:09 AM Then you'd need: FAQ #21: What do you mean by eligible? Eligible for what? Election? Marriage? Receiving a forward pass? Eligible for office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted January 18, 2011 at 03:12 AM Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 at 03:12 AM Eligible for office.Which is definitely not the same thing as "electable". At least not in English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted January 18, 2011 at 03:14 AM Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 at 03:14 AM Shoes for industry, George - er, Gary.You're darn tootin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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