Guest Charles Posted January 29, 2011 at 02:15 PM Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 at 02:15 PM What are the reasons for the President to rule a motion out of order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmtcastle Posted January 29, 2011 at 02:19 PM Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 at 02:19 PM What are the reasons for the President to rule a motion out of order?There are many, some substantive, some procedural. An example of the former is a motion that conflicts with the bylaws. An example of the latter is a motion made at the wrong time in the order of business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted January 29, 2011 at 02:31 PM Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 at 02:31 PM And if you take a look at RONR, p. 106, you'll find some more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted January 29, 2011 at 02:46 PM Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 at 02:46 PM There are many circumstances where a motion could be ruled out of order. Motions made while another member is speaking, a motion to Reconsider a motion that is not "reconsiderable", motions made during voting once the first vote is cast, a motion that does not have precedence over the immediately pending motion, and many other situations.Do you have any particulars you'd like to share, or was yours a general question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Goldsworthy Posted January 30, 2011 at 01:28 AM Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 at 01:28 AM What are the reasons for the President to rule a motion out of order?There are three basic reasons:1. TIMING - the motion is too early, or it is too late. -- See RECONSIDER for a an example of motion with time limits.2. RANKING - the motion is too low in hierarchy to be in order at that moment, due to the pending motion having a superior ranking. -- See the motion POSTPONE INDEFINITELY for an example of a motion with so low a ranking that it is rarely in order at any given moment in a given meeting.3. CONFLICT - the motion, is adopted, will be null and void, due to an existing rule or policy or procedure, etc., which will negate the effect of the motion. -- Example: Consider a motion to change the name of the organization; this motion cannot be entertained as an ordinary main motion, because to achieve its end, it must amend the bylaws to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted January 30, 2011 at 05:03 AM Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 at 05:03 AM What are the reasons for the President to rule a motion out of order?To cover the unfortunately common question, "I don't like it" is not an acceptable reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted January 30, 2011 at 12:55 PM Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 at 12:55 PM To cover the unfortunately common question, "I don't like it" is not an acceptable reason. Nor is the slightly more respectable-sounding (if delivered with sufficiently sonorous tones) but equally unacceptable , "Because it would be the Wrong Thing to do for this society!" Such words belong in debate and not in rulings of the chair, where they should provoke a Point of Order. Or several. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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