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Is it more proper to ask "Is there any discussion" or "Is there any debate"? I know "are you ready for the question is the most formal".

48 minutes ago, Alexis Hunt said:

What's the underlying reason for this question?

General curiosity. I saw a test question where the answer was that a motion to lay on the table is still considered in control of the assembly but I wondered if the same applied to referred and postponed motions because the vote in order to consider them out of order (i.e. discharge or to follow a different agenda) is 2/3 vs majority in a motion to lay on the table so I thought that because of the voting discrepancy they may be considered technically out of the hands of an assembly.

Are motions which have been postponed definitely or referred to a committee still within control of the assembly?

32 minutes ago, Shmuel Gerber said:

I would suggest that the chair also announce that the motion to Reconsider cannot be called up before _______ [the next meeting-day] and that all action on the motion involved is suspended until such time as the reconsideration is dealt with. The minutes could state, "Mr. X moved to reconsider and enter on the minutes the vote on the resolution relating to ..."

Good to know. So the President does indeed say "The Secretary will make a note of it" followed by that statement.

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After a member moves to reconsider and enter in the minutes the vote on... what does the chair reply with assuming it is seconded. Does he/she simply say the Secretary will make a note of it or is there something else that should be said? How does such a motion then appear in the minutes?

56 minutes ago, Hieu H. Huynh said:

What happens if a chapter delegate does not pass the test?

They may not be a chapter delegate. The wording I am wondering about is whether it is more proper to say "to require" or "that we require". 

25 minutes ago, Hieu H. Huynh said:

See RONR 11th ed., tinted p. 32, number 21.

18 minutes ago, Hieu H. Huynh said:

See RONR 11th ed., p. 334, l. 32.

Both of those only cover making the motion itself, but not how the chair repeats the motion, puts the motion etc... and for blanks how the chair asks for blanks and how the members offer them. There is an example given on pages 178-179 in conjunction with a motion to refer but that includes wording when two variables were already suggested.

So I am looking for something like page 208 where it includes what the chair says. I know a lot of this might seem somewhat obvious as the chair generally says the same thing but there can be minute differences in wording (for example the previous question is phrased: the previous question is moved and seconded... rather than it is moved and seconded that...") so you can see why I was hoping for a thorough outline.

Could someone please provide an example for what should be said when filling a blank and for the motion to reconsider and enter in the minutes. I find the examples in RONR 11ed. to be somewhat limited.

For the filling a blank example, If the motion were pending to "purchase a printer not to exceed $300" and the a member moved to strike out $300 and create a blank, what would the subsequent wording be?

If the assembly wanted to make a motion requiring all chapter delegates to pass a test in parliamentary procedure, would the better wording be "I move to require all chapter delegates to pass a test in parliamentary procedure" or "I move that we require all chapter delegates to pass a test in parliamentary procedure" or some other variation? 

2 hours ago, George Mervosh said:

I'm just an old fuddy duddy that's always addressed the presiding officer by their title when recognized, regardless of what motion or question I have.  I'm also a fan of using the forms and examples in the book as closely as I can remember them.  They're there for a reason.  

I try to use forms as close to as given as well. But in this case, I could see how it might be more convenient to begin the statement with I rise, as the presiding officer immediately knows the type of motion that is being brought and therefore would not accidentally recognize another member who also said Mr. President, but was making a motion of lower precedence.

6 hours ago, George Mervosh said:

The form and examples in the book have the member saying "Mr. President" in both cases.  RONR, pp. 229 and 294.  Oh, and it's a Request for Information in the 11th Edition, not a Point of Information ( though that term is not improper), The example shows both..

I saw that wording in RONR which is why I asked the question. Does that mean it is improper not to say Mr. President before saying I rise to...? Correct me if I'm wrong but it doesn't say anywhere that the forms and examples given are binding so long as the conditions outlined in RONR for the motion are met.

Is it necessary when making a motion that can interrupt business such as a question of privilege or a point of information to say Mr. President, I rise to... or is it acceptable to simply say I rise to... without the prefix Mr. President?

On page 144 of RONR 11ed. an example of the chair stating the question on a pending amendment is giving as "if the word is inserted, the primary amendment will be, "to add the resolution for the purchase of the property..."". It refers to the main motion as a resolution "for the purchase of the property" without stating the main motion in its exact words. Therefore, is it OK to do so when stating the question on a secondary amendment or a primary amendment for that matter.

Also, is it necessary to use the words on page 155 beginning with "it should be noted..." or can the motion be put without that added note on the motion?

If playing the national anthem, the pledge of allegiance and an invocation are all part of a convention's opening ceremonies, which one of the three is always last?

I am aware of the protocol "God before country" which would make the invocation first, but between the other two, how can you tell which should go last?