Guest Holi Posted October 16, 2019 at 03:04 PM Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 at 03:04 PM Trustee made the motion; however, he voted nay via online voting. The motion failed. Another motion was made and then the member asked for roll call of previous mtion. Again it was online voting and trustees entered their own votes. Now, trustee says he researched Roberts rules which allows for changing the vote after he realized he voted against his own motion. Advice?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted October 16, 2019 at 05:12 PM Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 at 05:12 PM (edited) 2 hours ago, Guest Holi said: Trustee made the motion; however, he voted nay via online voting. The motion failed. Another motion was made and then the member asked for roll call of previous mtion. Again it was online voting and trustees entered their own votes. Now, trustee says he researched Roberts rules which allows for changing the vote after he realized he voted against his own motion. Advice?? The trustee is correct that RONR permits a member to change his vote (the reasons why the member wishes to change his vote are immaterial), but after the result has been announced, this may be done only with unanimous consent (and even then, only before any debate or business has intervened). So it seems that it was too late. “CHANGING ONE'S VOTE. A member has a right to change his vote up to the time the result is announced; after that, he can make the change only by the unanimous consent of the assembly requested and granted, without debate, immediately following the chair's announcement of the result of the vote (see below). TIME LIMITS ON EFFORTS TO CHALLENGE, RETAKE, OR CHANGE A VOTE. After the result of a vote has been announced, members can still propose or demand certain actions that may change the result. A member may raise a point of order regarding the conduct of the vote, demand a division of the assembly, move to retake the vote under another method, move for a recapitulation of a roll-call vote, or request unanimous consent to change his vote. With the exception of a point of order raised against a breach of a continuing nature (p. 251, ll. 3–23), if any of these actions is to apply to a vote after the result has been announced, it must be taken immediately after the chair's announcement, before any debate or business has intervened.” (RONR, 11th ed., pgs. 408-409) My advice would be for the trustee to simply make the motion again at the next opportunity, and vote correctly that time. Edited October 16, 2019 at 05:14 PM by Josh Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted October 17, 2019 at 06:14 AM Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 at 06:14 AM 14 hours ago, Guest Holi said: Trustee made the motion; however, he voted nay via online voting. The motion failed. Another motion was made and then the member asked for roll call of previous mtion. Again it was online voting and trustees entered their own votes. Now, trustee says he researched Roberts rules which allows for changing the vote after he realized he voted against his own motion. Advice?? Since he says he has researched it, he should, in theory, have no trouble providing the page and line number for this strange rule. Hint: In fact, his troubles will be substantial, since it's not in there. RONR does have a rule against the mover of a motion speaking against the motion in debate, but it's perfectly allowable to vote against one's own motion. And once any further business has intervened, changing a vote is impermissible, even with unanimous consent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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