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I am puzzling what is the difference between

The privileged motion: Raise a question of privilege (19)

And

The incidental motion: Request for privilege (33:22)

Would like 2 examples

One where 19 is in order and  33:22 is not in order

One where 33:22 is in order and 19 is not in order

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18 hours ago, Guest Puzzling said:

I am puzzling what is the difference between

The privileged motion: Raise a question of privilege (19)

And

The incidental motion: Request for privilege (33:22)

The motion to Raise a Question of Privilege and a question of privilege itself (the distinction between which is important to understand) are well-defined in RONR.

"To Raise a Question of Privilege is a device that permits a request or main motion relating to the rights and privileges of the assembly or any of its members to be brought up for possible immediate consideration because of its urgency, while business is pending and the request or motion would otherwise not be in order. (For types and examples of questions of privilege,2 see 19:7–17.)" RONR (12th ed.) 19:1

"It is important to understand the distinction between the device Raise a Question of Privilege and the question of privilege itself. The point to be decided in connection with the former is whether a certain question shall be admitted for consideration with the status and priority of the latter. The “raising” of a question of privilege is governed by rules appropriate to the device’s high rank in the order of precedence of motions. When a question of privilege is taken up after it has been raised and has been admitted by the chair, however, depending on the form in which it was introduced, it is handled as a request (32, 33), or it is treated as a main motion and is debatable and amendable and can have any subsidiary motion applied to it—regardless of whether it interrupted, or awaited the disposal of, the pending business. Questions of privilege can also be introduced while no motion is pending, either as requests or by being moved and seconded just as any other main motion; in that case, the device of “raising” a question of privilege does not enter in." RONR (12th ed.) 19:3

"Questions of privilege are of two types: (1) those relating to the privileges of the assembly as a whole; and (2) questions of personal privilege. If the two come into competition, the former take precedence over the latter. Questions of the privileges of the assembly may relate to its organization or existence; to the comfort of its members with respect to heating, ventilation, lighting, and noise or other disturbance; to the conduct of its officers and employees, or of visitors; to the punishment of its members; or to the accuracy of published reports of its proceedings; etc. A motion to go into executive session (9) is a question of the privileges of the assembly. Questions of personal privilege—which seldom arise in ordinary societies and even more rarely justify interruption of pending business—may relate, for example, to an incorrect record of a member’s participation in a meeting contained in minutes approved in his absence, or to charges circulated against a member’s character." RONR (12th ed.) 19:7

Request for Any Other Privilege, however, is... less well-defined.

"When a member desires to make a request not covered by one of the four types explained above—as, for example, a request to address remarks or make a presentation while no motion is pending—he rises, addresses the chair, and, as soon as he catches the presiding officer’s attention, states his request. Although he does not have to wait for recognition and can make his request even though another member has been assigned the floor, he should never interrupt a member speaking unless sure that urgency justifies it. Generally, such matters are settled by unanimous consent or informally, but if there is an objection, a motion can be made to grant the request. If explanation is required, it can be requested or given, but this must not extend into debate. These requests should be treated so as to interrupt the proceedings as little as is consistent with the demands of justice." RONR (12th ed.) 33:22

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