Guest schipp Posted September 15, 2023 at 06:15 PM Report Share Posted September 15, 2023 at 06:15 PM During an in camera meeting , one officer swore at another , this was anounced in email the whole membership and disaplin action started. Can the person now discuss, in defence of them self, the coversation during the In camera meeting. Their defence is that the person they said F--- Off to was saying durogitory comments and laughing at them . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted September 15, 2023 at 06:28 PM Report Share Posted September 15, 2023 at 06:28 PM (edited) On 9/15/2023 at 1:15 PM, Guest schipp said: During an in camera meeting , one officer swore at another , this was anounced in email the whole membership and disaplin action started. Can the person now discuss, in defence of them self, the coversation during the In camera meeting. Their defence is that the person they said F--- Off to was saying durogitory comments and laughing at them . What assembly was meeting when the alleged conduct occurred? And what assembly is handling the disciplinary procedures? Edited September 15, 2023 at 06:28 PM by Josh Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted September 15, 2023 at 09:35 PM Report Share Posted September 15, 2023 at 09:35 PM On 9/15/2023 at 2:15 PM, Guest schipp said: During an in camera meeting , one officer swore at another , this was anounced in email the whole membership and disaplin action started. Can the person now discuss, in defence of them self, the coversation during the In camera meeting. Their defence is that the person they said F--- Off to was saying durogitory comments and laughing at them . [T]he only way in which a member may be disciplined for words spoken in debate is through the procedure described in 61:10–18, which may be employed only promptly after the breach occurs. [RONR (12th ed.) 61.22] If the chair took no action, such as calling the offender to order or "naming" him and having the secretary take down the words, this may be a snoozing-induced loss. You don't say what sort of a meeting this was, but if it was in executive session, the offending words may still be protected by the secrecy of executive session. If it was a membership meeting, this would not be an issue. Otherwise, whoever spread the news should be reminded of this rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atul Kapur Posted September 15, 2023 at 10:42 PM Report Share Posted September 15, 2023 at 10:42 PM Assuming that disciplinary action is allowed at this time; and Assuming that the correct body considering whether to take this action and that it is the same or superior body to the one where the alleged misconduct occurred, then I definitely recommend that the consideration of discipline also be done in camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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